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theTramp · 25/09/2012 18:00

Old thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1558560-March-2013-Mk-V-Lumpy-bumpy-witty-knitters-patiently-await-the-bloom?msgid=34370452#34370452

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DoodleBugBee · 27/09/2012 07:28

Bodyshop is Nestlé?! Buggeration!

Mostly delighted that work have fallen over themselves to source a new chair for me - I'm quite short and the lumbar support in the standard chair wasn't in the right place. On completion of the risk assessment, I was told that at any point that I feel I need it, I can go for a lie down in the first aid room (quiet, dim and very calm place). I doubt I'll ever use it but I feel rather blessed with my workplace and their maternity policies. Blush

FB has given me a new lease of life - thank you gang Grin I only have 12 friends (through choice!) and to be able to share pictures is great. Gold star to whoever made it all happen.

Pain in feet not happening but trapped gas is taking over my life! Many an awkward moment at work Confused!!

Speaking of work, I wanted to gain your opinions on returning to work after respective bumps are born... I'm lucky enough that we could (almost) manage on just DHs salary but am wrangling with losing my identity a bit...

Wishing all and bumps a smashing Thursday xxx

OodHousekeeping · 27/09/2012 07:38

My boobs have shrink this preg. Despite still bf dd3 who isn't impressed, though she still sits up with a mouth full of milk so they still work, just slower than before.

Em2010 · 27/09/2012 08:07

Hiya everyone! Haven't managed to get on here in ages. Just wanted to mark my place and say hello! Hope everyone is doing well.

Chefette · 27/09/2012 08:08

Trapped wind? Let it be free Wink

And body shop is Nestlé? Where did that cone from when did it happen? Mind you lots of things are owned these days through huge multinational conglomerate scary corps I think.

Good luck for scannering ladies today and fx for no sickness, am keeping eyes peeled for JoJo

theTramp · 27/09/2012 08:12

Doodle - I'll be working post pregnancy and v soon afterwards the curse/joy of starting up own business. However even if I could give up work I don't think I would, I'd be more likely to switch to a part time or consultancy role.

Zoey - yes to the bowling ball boobs. Theyre solid and it's quite disconcerting.

Hey there Confuddle.

JoJo - if you're awake, copus & reading hope you're not hurting and you an bean are ok. x

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Chefette · 27/09/2012 08:37

Oh DBB you wanted opinions, well. It's different for everyone I guess. In our case I am the breadwinner, so have no choice but to return to work full time. I leave home 6:40am (summer) 6:20am (winter) and get home approx 18:00 after a total commute of 80 miles of around 1hr 45 in car. I would kill to be able to stay at home, or be part-time! Unfortunately i earn 3 times my DPs salary, and our financial structure is based around that weighting or down to 2 times. My role is not one that lends itself to part time hours however, and as you have to make a business case to work to show how it could work, there is no advantage to them, nor would the level if service or function perform as petrie it would be poorer.

I don't feel like my job role defines me, my interests, family friends and experiences are more important I think, and so would be happy not being at a work place, but further down the line would be feeling strongly about wanting to contribute financially, and working my brain cells and interacting with adults on a more regular basis where the conversation does not revolve around nappy content or similar?!

The flip side depends perhaps on what you do, how hard it is to take a break and get back into your field/niche. Another consideration is whether you as a family unit feel content just managing and just getting by. From experience that can be very stressful for all, and do you have the ability to cope should a huge bill or two come out of the blue, and would you be denying yourselves things that may seem very real and needed when the time comes (holidays, Xmas pressies, wine, day trips out with family etc), but it depends on what your take on "managing" or "getting by" means for you.

How does your OH feel about it? Would he feel pressured? Is his job or industry fairly secure? What would the alternatives be like? Is your work open to part time returning, or could you take an unpaid career break post mat leave? (sorry can't remember if you were one if the ladies working a shorter contract type job).

How long would you think about not working for? I winder if we will all feel we will have lost our personal identities fir a time only being know as DC x's mummy anyway?! Do you have other children who would welcome mum being at home more?

All off the top of my head, as I eat breakfast, sorry, nit meant to be a rant or anything, its jyst exerythibg i think i would do myself to figure it out if i was in your shoesBlush

I think there are other similar questions on MN threads with some fairly good advice.

At the end if your musings and deliberations, ask whether everyone in the family unit would benefit, and does the sum of those benefits (financial, emotional, ease of planning complex family life, domestic requirements, child care complexities, fuel/car/travel arrangements, social contact, stress) outweighs the alternatives.

Figure out exactly your outgoings, plus your contingency, determine if you can make it work on worse case scenario, and if worse case scenario were to happen, how would you tackle it?

Erm right, better do some work Blush verbal diarrhoea!!!

Have good days all

theTramp · 27/09/2012 09:41

Good ramblings there Chef and crikey that's a heck of a commute. I think you need either a teleportation device or a helicopter.

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GummiberryJuice · 27/09/2012 09:42

Morning all, I have been awake from 4.45 gave in any notion of falling back to sleep and got up at 6.30 for shower

Feel ok at min have my last official cake to finish today, any doubts I had about giving up early were put to bed yesterday as my dd1 has to be put on New meds that involve weekly injections, leading to more hospital apps and gp apps, and I still have to juggle working for dh, so I am so relieved I won't be stressing over cakes.

chipbutty I think it was you that asked about 20 wk scan date I got mine at booking in app scan, and think everyone else did too, check your notes or ring up antenatal just incase it was overlooked

Welcome tribble and yes join us if there are any more lurkers

Possom and tiddely I know there was something I was going to write to both of you now I can't remember, can I really use baby brain for something I have forgotten in the space of 5 mins

Jojo hope you and bean are doing good

MrsR where are you hope you are ok

Oh and the hot water bottle on back is also a great tip for Labour I used it for dd1 it was invaluable, I forgot it for ds and dd2 was in such a hurry she didn't give me time to ask the midwife to fill up

Will do stats thread when on computer ta tiddely

Waves to everyone else

EthelredOnAGoodDay · 27/09/2012 09:44

Just on bus crawling into York for a meeting. Traffic horrendous, flood plains well and truly flooded, roads shut, arrgghh!
Plus just said teary goodbye to DH as he's off to middle east for a fortnight. Sad

Really will try to catch up tonight! X

mandasand · 27/09/2012 10:36

Morning all! Feel great as I went back to sleep when DH went to work and have just crawled out of bed to a blue-skied day - superb.

Your poor DD Gummi. Sounds like it's a good time overall to put a halt to the cake-making but I'm sure you will have a lot of sad customers!

Chefette, the flood in your temp accommodation sounds awful!!! Any chance it will get sorted today? Glad you're enjoying FB - yay!

Doodle works sounds great! Love the fact you have a little room you can go and have a lie down in - take advantage! Re returning to work, Chefette has already offered really excellent advice on how to think it through. I've gone on before about my own situation on previous editions of this thread and on another, so I'll keep this brief. Current 3-year contract on a research contract is a real golden ticket for me. I'm an academic and have just shifted disciplines (v. hard to do) and everything is going so well with the hint of further contracts in the future. It's perfect job: I work from home (v. flexibly) with maybe two days out maximum. I am absolutely returning to work after 9 months, and we will get nanny or similar for few hours a week even during mat. leave, and DH may go down to 4-day week and is trying for new, equivalent or better, jobs closer to home (his is a 12-hour day including commute, which isn't great) as I have conferences to speak at and two books and other publications to see through press. Academia is kind of like a game and if you step out then it is very, very hard to get back in - have watched other women post-maternity try hard but fail to do so and it's heartbreaking. Also, research can often be v. closely tied to your identity / sense-of-self (it can be your hobbies and interests all rolled into one): it is in my case and I simply don't want to give up writing or forging new ground. It is something I need to do. Not just because I've fought so hard to be where I am but also because I want to stay in the game and progress within 5-10 years to a more senior, permanent position where I will really be able to relax into it. Between my Chicago job and this one I had ten months in which I really struggled to get a job. I was teaching for the OU in my subject area and doing quite a lot of freelance work for academics and publishers, so just about keeping head above water financially, but I got a bit depressed and felt I had lost myself. So, for me, it's not even a choice; almost a way of life. DH is ex-academic and hugely supportive. Soz, that was meant to be short!

Maybe our jobs aren't similar but issues to do with identity possibly are. Try to imagine what, ideally, you want to be doing in 5-6 years time when 'the bump' is off to school. How will you fill your days and how difficult will that be to achieve financially, professionally, emotionally etc?

OodHousekeeping · 27/09/2012 10:50

I couldn't give up work completely but would like not to be in my current job! It doesn't work well p/t (at least at a .5 .8 seems ok)despite loads of us doing it. Plus it's a job where you never do enough.

Been to GP, she walked down to her room withme and knew the problem immediately, offered urgent Physio referral and made sure I was asking for support at work etc

newyearsday · 27/09/2012 10:51

I've been AWOL. Life has just been so BUSY! We're hoping to move house before Christmas but are having the usual ups n downs of house selling and buying (so bl**dy stressful!). I've been getting myself organised planning a HBAC, meeting doulas and hypnobirthing practictioners, joined a local VBAC support group, meeting the consultant midwife (pro-VBAC) at the hospital instead of going to the obstetrician appt, so feeling a bit more prepared. Have also been so tired and washed out (put it down to running around after a very energetic 16mth old) but found out yesterday my bp is on the low side so that's probably why. Also found out I have separated abdominal muscles from 1st pg, lovely! Started aquanatal and an antenatal yoga class. So anyway, with all that going on, something had to give and I haven't managed to keep up to date with all your news. Hope I haven't missed too much...

Sheldonella · 27/09/2012 10:54

Just a quickie - wondering about JoJo and zoeys scan.
My work plan is to come back part time if I'm allowed and eventually work back up to full time and getting my career going more the way I want. I do enjoy what I do but I work in software and would prefer to work in hardware.
Welcome back newyearsday.

StealthToddler · 27/09/2012 11:06

Body shop was acquired by L'Oreal in 2006 not Nestlé. body shop still do not do animal testing but L'Oreal the parent company does. Was a sell out of values IMO.

sarahs999 · 27/09/2012 11:30

Hello all. Busy day yesterday - had midwife in the afternoon, which was nice as I got to hear baby's heartbeat again - v active as well, which was probably due to the Coke Zero I'd drunk just before I went in Blush.

The in the evening I had the PTA AGM. I have been chair for two years but now my son has moved on to the juniors it was time to give up the post. Brilliantly we managed to fill all the posts - had been rather worried that the whole structure I'd put in place would crumble, but we had some lovely and enthusiastic mums and dads turn up and I feel my baby is in good hands! Some very nice words were said about me and how well I'd modernised it and 'set the yardstick' for all future committees (that from our teacher liaison, so felt very nice).

Feels weird that it's all over, but also good timing given the growing bump in my tummy. It's been hard work working full time and being the chair, nice to take some of the strain off.

As far as working goes, I've been waiting for this maternity leave to be able to leave my job - five years it's taken! Sounds mad, but the leave is very good and it will give me a chance to work out what I am going to do next. Although I used to be the main breadwinner this has now changed and my DH earns much more than me. I want to work for myself, or set up a business with a friend, but not idea yet quite what to do. I'm a creative type at heart but am a bit of a jack of all trades. We want to move to Hove, where my in-laws are, but the schools are a bit meh - comparable to where we are really, whereas I want something much better. Just hoping they improve in the next couple of years. ANyway, that's us. WE've had our share of being the unusual family - I went back to work after a year and DH stayed at home for another year with DS (until he went back to uni to convert to being a teacher).

I rememebr thinking that the first few years of havng a child were really a suck-it-and-see kind of experience; no one tells you how you are supposed to cope going from two salaries to one, how you pay for eye-watering childcare, what's the best way to do it and even when to apply for schools. You're just supposed to magically know. Can be quite an alienating process and I think particularly applying for schools really favours hte middle-class, tuned-in parent who can access the internet and work out the secret codes and ways to win!

zoeymlucas · 27/09/2012 13:06

Well scan was fab saw baby in 3d and got lots of pictures, went to next and mothercare after and got some outfits and a Moses basket :)

There s no mistaking baby Lucas is on team blue - its a BOYGrin however was slightly scared by his boy bits in picture as his bits are rather large, lol!!!

theTramp · 27/09/2012 13:13

I think the school application system foxes all but the most dedicates or kids whose parents are teachers. It has stresses out so many people I know or have worked for. It's in no way on favour of the middle classes that's for sure. I'm dreading that and who knows if it's really bad we may up sticks.

Chef - I'm so sorry I missed your flooding woes last night. You poor thing that's frustrating and ick-a-vie. Hope upstairs neighbour is now on the case.

I've had manic morning and a bad nights sleep. I've a ton of work to do this pm but right now I think it's nap or fall over. Almost home so I'll see how I feel after a little lunch.

I'm getting a sense that job satisfaction plays a large part in alot of people's decision about going back to work or not, as much as economic considerations. It's tough finding a job that satisfies you and pays. I suspect that post Socs arrival how I work will change, as I try to fit in more family time, but that was part of reasoning behind setting up my own business, I really wanted to try to find a way to make my working life more flexible. It's def that but economically I've taken a big hit. Hopefully not for too long - but much hinges on how clients view my pregnancy. If it's a year before I can win any new clients that will have a substantial impact on my new little business.

Sorry I'm rambling. Anyway, everyone is different and only you can know what's best for you.

I'm presently wondering why I didn't buy a bagel when I was waiting at the station. Tummys rumbling.

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theTramp · 27/09/2012 13:15

Zoey - hurrah for fab scan and baby L

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GummiberryJuice · 27/09/2012 13:24

Oh wow Zoey cogratulations had we predicted team blue for you?

I have hospital app in about an hour for thyroid but I'm really hoping they scan me or something too, doubt it though!

I can't really give any insight into the work/childcare disscusions as when dd1 was born there would not have been much change out of my wages once I paid for childcare, so as dh and I bought our house while I was at uni, we were well used to living off one wage.
dh went self employed while I worked full time and then it got to the point he was so snowed under with work he was getting behind with paperwork, so one night when he was working late I went into his office and got everything up to date, so now I work for him and thankfully I just have to get stuff done when I want to do it so easily juggled around dcs.

pinkpeony4 · 27/09/2012 13:24

Zoey Congratulations Grin 3 boys is lovely (and hopefully 4 will be too!) Mine are very sweet together. How exciting to have done some shopping too. Sounds like a lovely day.

Any news from JoJo? I hope it all went well.

Sarah Great news about your good apt.

Newyearsday one of my friends had really bad separated stomach muscles after twins (she qualified for surgery but wanted to try and sort them out with exercise). She did loads of pilates and they knitted back to together so well she avoided surgery. Your HB plans sound good. I am hopefully having one this time too. Have you seen this website - www.homebirth.org.uk/

Ood I hope your physio apt comes through asap. I saw an amazing chiropractor in my last pregnancy who made a massive difference when I had pgp.

My boobs feel massive but aren't hard thank goodness. That feeling you get when breastfeeding when they are really full is soooo painful! I hope they settle down for you all soon!

Manda My swing coat is a bright blue/purple colour with black buttons. It is pretty old but fab for pregnancy. This one is quite nice and a bargainous price - ASOS Swing Coat

zoeymlucas · 27/09/2012 13:30

Yeah mum bought some bits and we bought a daddy's little superhero baby grow with a detachable cape :) plus got a lovely blue Moses basket was in sale reduced to 40.00 from 80.00 :)

OodHousekeeping · 27/09/2012 13:44

Yay for a boy and baby shopping zoey

My stomach muscles were a wreck after dd2 and Physio with dd3 helped but they aren't great. I could get a hand in but pre pg this time was only a finger or so! That's part of the problem with my pelvis/back as they lack support!

Sheldonella · 27/09/2012 13:48

Congratulations on DS3 zoey

Chefette · 27/09/2012 13:52

Congrats Zoey yay for bargains . Ouch for tummy muscles! Eat ladies eat!!

No news on manky loo leak flood, the glorious DP on the case. I an chasing mysteriously errant joiners, work suffering today as life gets in the way!!

Rainbowbabyhope · 27/09/2012 16:37

Had a gender scan today and looks like we are having another DD. No team pink/blue for me as I really dislike the colour coding of genders - so I will be team rainbow! Congratulations to everyone else finding out and also admire all those able to hold out for the surprise!

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