The Wagon has got plenty of new arrivals, a few more on the way and still waiting for a honk or 2

[McKayz]

Here we go a nice new thread!!

Saying a big Wagon Hello to little Aoife. Ses She is beautiful.

Come on Baby McKayz!!!!!

Ooh she's gorgeous Kayz . Can't wait to hear your birth story when you get the chance!!!!

Hope pains are passing kayz my mum reckons hers were worse than labour! Hope rosalie has a good first night x

Oh.em.gee the hormones may just tip me over the edge ((www.buzzfeed.com/expresident/pictures-that-will-restore-your-faith-in-humanity?s=mobile))

How are things today McKayz? She really does look beautiful on FB pics, and very much like you :)

Aoife's had quite an unsettled day today. I've just walked down to Starbucks and treated myself to a hot chocolate and cheesecake. The weight seems to be falling off me this time round so I don't feel too guilty! At 12days post birth I'm only 4lb off my pre-pg weight! ( That is still about a stone too much but one step at a time eh?!)
Anyway Aoife has now settled asleep on my lap in Starbucks so I'm chilling here for a bit :)

Saw MW yesterday and HV came today. Aoife's not back to her birth weight of 9lb11 yet but she us regaining so no one is overly worried. She was pretty big to begin with! See MW again next Wed and then HV back next Thursday but just to repeat hearing test as she couldn't get a clear response today in one ear.

Oh and I have a dilemma I'd be interested to know how you'd respond...
One of our group of friends has a birthday party for her 3 yo son next Wednesday at a steam railway about 45mins away. Now DH and I have been wanting to take DS there for a while and kind of agreed we'd go together. Also my Dad would really like to come too as he (and mum) used to take me and my brothers a lot when we were younger. When we first got the invitation, I replied saying I didn't know if we'd go as I didn't know when DC2 would arrive and left it open. I've now messaged my friend to say we won't be going as DH can't get the day off work and I can't drive. My friend has responded saying that if I want, she'd be happy to take DS for me. How do I respond saying no thanks without seeming ungrateful or am I being a mean mummy and I should let DS go with her ?
WWYD?!

Now it's chucking it down with rain so I'm stranded at Starbucks! There's plenty of worse places to be stranded and at least DD is still just about asleep!

She's been checked and she doesn't have tongue tie. MW said the latch looks great and that sometimes it just hurts for a few days while we both get used to it. She did say that if it gets too painful to take her off, have a breather and then try again.

I am struggling though as I can not put her down without her screaming. I just want to go to the toilet, get a drink, sort out boys etc but can't without listening to her which is horrible. I don't feel up to using the sling yet.

I've got a couple of slings but not used them yet either. Have youi got anyone to come over and help with tea-time and bedtime for the boys?

The rain stopped and I'm back home now watching my guilty pleasure that is Deal or no Deal

No everyone is busy. My Dad is up for the weekend so I can have some help

Oh that's tough but great that your Dad is around at the weekend. In the meantime, it really won't matter what you do this evening to get the boys sorted - doesn't matter what time they go to bed or if they have snacks for tea or if DD has to cry for a few minutes at a time.

Why is something so natural so bloody hard? I think I'm having post baby blues already.

Ses glad you made it home I also love DOND! Glad things are settling down!

Kayz you are in an incredibly difficult position which is also unfamiliar, with the boys exDH was there with you, through nobody's fault this time you are alone, you are physically only one person an you're doing brilliantly. As ses said take any short cuts you can, are there any local friends who can pop over? Sometimes having someone there just as company can help? Baby blues are normal as you know and quite probably feel magnified in the situation. Hang in there it will get better! Would EXDH maybe take the boys for you for a few hours after school? Just to help
You find your feet? Sneaky nonwagonly ((hugs))

Oh Kayz, poor you. It must be super tough with 3 on your own. Can you build DS1 into chief helper? Has your milk come in yet? Can you wait for her to have a really big cry (mouth really wide open) and then thrust her into your boob? You would be surprised how forcefully MWs push the baby on if they are helping. DD probably needs to get the hang of it too. Don't worry about what you do with the boys for the first couple of days... You can get routine back when a) DD is settled in and b) DH is back home. Also if you want to give her a bottle it's not the end of the world - I know you really want to try bf and I also couldn't accept anyone telling me to give DD a bottle either so I'm probably not helping.... Baby blues suck!

I also meant to comment - your day sounds lovely Ses, glad you can enjoy it. When you're not hectic with visitors, maybe DD and I could pop over one day to visit?
Kayz - wish I was closer, I'd gladly pop in to help out.
Ses - in your situation I would say - that's really kind of you, but you'll have so much on with your own DC.... But that's only because I wouldn't necessarily have let either of mine at 3 go to a party on their own - I had enough trouble letting DS go to Legoland on his own with his friend, his Mum and her sister the other week at 5 and 3/4!!! Maybe that gives you the excuse you want to save going there so you can all go together - hope that makes sense?!
Hi BB!!

Ses sorry my mind blanked your question its been a looong day! Personally it depends on how well you know the parent, i would struggle with it myself but only you know how youd feel. Not much help am I?

Hi star how are you?

Who won my sweepstake?

I've decided to go out today. I really really hate being in the house, I haven't been out since Monday and fancy a walk. I think I'm going to pick up DS2 from playschool.

Ses I also think it depends on how well you know the Mum and how you feel DS would cope. I know DS2 would happily bugger off with anyone. Especially if there are trains involved!

Oh walk sounds a nice way to get out kayz

ses what did u decide?

Ive been so weird today suffered with very bad insomnia last night so cancelled todays plans as they were semi stressful (thread in themselves and possibly a hormonal issue), our new furniture arrives nice and early which was good then DP went and did the banking and the food shop... What a nice guy eh? But all i did was cry when he got me a caramac not a caramel and i accused him of doing it deliberately

I have just ordered a kebab as i so so fancied it! And am watching GOSH which isnt greatly advisable in my current state of hormonal madness!

Whats everyone got planned for the weekend? We have a semi relaxed one which will be nice, out for lunch tomorrow, and then a spot of shopping. Sunday a bit of cleaning, probably a few movies.

Already under whelmed by idea of work
Next week, went sick weds an i dont think it will be popular.. Oh well! Scan thurs

Oh two questions for your opinion:

I sent an email confirming pg to my boss and HR about two Weeks ago. HR havent acknowledged this at all, should I chase? I was thinking of doing this in the form of another email asking a few pertinent questions?

Second question, DP and I are off week
After next, one of those days we have a wedding visit and are planning for DS to go to nursery ( we have to pay regardless!) on this day, but the other two days, would you send or not? If he does go I know he will be picked up early but still feel a bit mean?

Another ramble!

I sent my friend a message in the end thanking her for her kind offer but explaining that I'd leave it this time as DS is being unsettled and unpredictable at the moment as he adjusts to changes.

This is unfortunately all too true and in the last 48hrs has been very difficult. DS has lots of change at the moment:
-Aoife arriving

• me not doing nursery run. I was doing this at least 95% of the time but now doing none whilst I wait to be able to drive. Various people are helping out.
• Two of his friends he saw most frequently and played with most have left nursery
• his key worker at nursery has left

I think that's enough for any 3yo!
Anyway yesterday at nursery he apparently but another child badly enough to leave a mark for a few days.
Bedtime is horrendous. He won't go to sleep without someone reading to him and last night that took until 10pm. Tonight, DH is still up there with him.
I'm sure it's all a phase whilst he adjusts but its heartbreaking and exhausting :(

Kayz - hope you've had a good day and made it out ok

BB - I think I'd be tempted to send him one day and make the most of a DC free day and on the other day do something as a treat with him, even if it's a trip to the playground or soft play.

Right, sounds like O is finally asleep...
Hello to everyone else Ginger, Star, LBOT, Diege, Rugby and anyone else I've missed!

Oh and Star - you'd be more than welcome whenever you'd like :)

Ah don't you love 3:30am

The MW came yesterday and DD has jaundice. She's gone from being awake screaming for feeds to pretty sleepy. She'll now sleep in her Moses basket instead of having to be with me. She's just had a feed and I'm just giving her a little rest before I try and get her to have a bit more.

I think my milk is coming in. I look a bit like Jordan

Hi Kayz !
Great that your milk is coming in and that she's now sleeping in her Moses basket some of the time. Both DS & DD had jaundice early on. Best way to get it to go quickly is lots of feeding and sunlight. (If only we were getting lots of sunlight at the moment!)

I had a bit of a scary evening. (WARNING: don't read if you're having breakfast!) My bleeding & discharge had tailed off to non existent about 5 days ago. Suddenly last night when I went to the toilet, there was a mucousy discharge so I put a pad on and within 20mins had to change it as I'd suddenly lost loads of blood. I sat on the toilet and then lost a huge quantity of thick mucous and loads more blood. I actually got to the stage where I phoned the post natal ward at 11pm whilst still sat on the toilet. They just said to watch out for a temperature or funny smell with the discharge. Fortunately it all failed off gradually but it was a bit worrying at the time!

Anyway, hopefully now all ok. DH & DS have just headed off to rugbytots. I'm hoping DD might have a little sleep so that I can have a bath.
Hope you all have a great wkend :)

We're having smelly yellow nappies!! That is surely a good sign!

Hi ladies
Hi kayz you r doing so well
Not long till dh back
Glad she is sleeping better

Ses sorry ds playing up!

Hi to everyone else :)

All gd here
Hvng gd wknd

Work in a mo

Woohoo!!!!

MW has just been and Rosalie has lost 6oz, her jaundice looks good and the MW is very very happy with her!!!

Thats good news kayz

I am at work and so fed up, possibly because DS decided last night that he was going to be awake and incredibly naughty until about half 2, giving DP 3 hours sleep and me 4 he has never been shouted at so much and has had his treats for the week taken away and is nit allowed tv today at all. He was the who was naughty yet I feel a cow for disciplining?? Oh the joys!

We had a chat this morning and both said sorry so i suppose its just one to chalk up to experience. Feeling very down today though, and with that comes extreme paranoia argh.

kay - brillant news your doing a great job
bb - sorry for bad nite and lack of sleep

good here