Twins Club 4!! All welcome. :-)

[rednellie]

Right ladies, welcome aboard for mutual hand holding. Here are the stats - they're probably all wrong!

MrsStevo, #1 & 2, EDD 23/08/2011, Lincs, MCDA ID,
Tiggersreturn #2+3 EDD 26/09/11 NW London DCDA - not finding out
silverangel #1+2 Sophie, 3lb3 & Alice3lb1 born at 31+2 on 01/08/11 EMCS
PrincessScrumpy #2 & 3, girls
BB3, #2&3 (#1 DS) DCDA girls born 20.09.11 by EMCS at 37 weeks exactly - Edith-May 5lb 11.5oz and Ayse-Rose 6lb 1oz.

PeelingmyselfofftheCeiling #1+2 EDD, DCDA, Boy and Girl, Born 14 Sept
Twinnerves, DCDA, #2&3, girls Francesca and Isabella, born 18/11/11 EMCS 6lbs 6 oz and 6lbs 9.5oz
xkatyx , ID girls, DC 8,5,9months, ELCS 23/12/11 Rosie and Hollie
Quempin #1&2 EDD 27/1/12, ID boys, T1 5lb5oz, T2 just under 5lb, ELCS 36 weeks
Ravenlocks DCDA, #1&2, 6.01.12 T1 Boy, 4lb 12oz, T2 Girl, 6lb
Tabbycatt, DCDA, 2 boys, DC 2 & 3, 2/1/12 at 36 weeks, VB, T1 5lb 5oz, T2 5lb 11oz
claireinmodena dcda bg born 8/2 Emma (2,870 kg) and Riccardo (2,310 kg)
StinkingBishop 2 &3 DCDA girls EDD 19/3/12
RedNellie DC 2&3, DCDA boys, EDD 28/3/12
DreamingOfPeace, DCDA boys, DC 2 & 3, EDD 19/4/12
Skitoo: DCDA Boys, DC #1&2, EDD 14/05/12
Bigboobsatlast: MCDA Boys, DC #2 & 3. EDD 23.05.12
Buonasera, 1&2, DCDA, EDD 22/05/12 (???)
Lilyni DC 4&5, DCDA, EDD 12/06/12
goimgmadtrying: mcda id girls dc 3&4!!!! edd 05/08/12
Teds DCDA #1&2 EDD 31/07/12
Kazar99 DCDA EDD ???

You beat me to it skitoo.

Just a heads up - day 3 milk coming in crying thing, quite a lot more with twins! DH and Mum are being great, but I have been weeping quite a lot whilst also saying "I don't know why I'm crying, I'm really haaaaaaapppppppyyyyy"

Rather pathetic! I've found going to bed with DD, and the DT's at 6.30pm is also saving my sanity. Eventually I'll probably come back downstairs for an hour or two of adult time, but at the mo, sleeping like a toddler seems to be working.

All good here apart from me and DD having a horrible chest cold, but we're using it as an excuse to watch LOTS of Pingu and Angelina Ballerina (which I think I actually like more than DD does...)

Sorry lilyni about your OB - as someone who hated my first one and then changed, I can't recommend doing the same enough. Surgeons aren't gods and you are the patient and therefore need/deserve to be looked after properly.

Waves to claire, they're so cute these boys - I can't wait for them to start giggling. I'm convinced they've been smiling at me already. Idris and I have long chats and Madoc is hilarious - he looks like an old man. I'll try and get pics up at some point...

Oh that's exactly what I was like after having dd- hormonal and weepy, crying 'but I'm so haaappppyyyy!' Seems that'll happen again then rednellie . Double crying... Hard to take. I'm not, and never have been good with crying. Thank goodness there's your mum and dh there to cuddle babies. How are the tena pants btw?! Can't believe I'm trying to squash a few pairs in my ridiculously small hospital bag as a 'luxury' item . You're spot on going to bed with the toddler and babies. Brief phase and all, in a couple of months it'll be different. absolutely dying to see pics of your boys. They sound fab!

And sorry, missed replying to your post desiren. How sad that you just lost your father. What a time of mixed emotions- being pregnant with your twins on the one hand and losing your dad on the other... I totally freaked out about coping at first,thinking of all the things you can't do without an extra adult with 3 kids under 2 (like swimming , aeroplane travel etc) but now I'm in denial really excited and certainly not dreading anything, except the delivery, either way! how my little girl will cope- she really doesn't understand that babies are coming... There's always HomeStart help etc too. Seems loads of multiple mums access that. I did start the process but am v lucky my dad is going to pay for 2 days a week help for me.

Can't remember anything else, still on phone, but thanks for re-linking skitoo!

i have just put a new pic on my profile of my little nieces,now 6 weeks old today and doing very well One is 8lb and the other is 7 1/2 lb

im really really sorry i am not going to acknowledge any other posts which is awful i.know but im off to bed and shattered so can't go back and catch up but i wanted to share that i have felt babies moving properly tonight where i can feel.it outside and even dh felt it, that was the top baby but have felt movements from the other too i think woohoo so excited and relieved!!!! sorry for the me post hope everyone is ok Will try and catch up tomoz xx

YEY goingmad, that's great. I'm so happy for you. Big bunch of for you.

I've had a rubbish day - this crap cold is crap and me and DD are suffering. She just wants me, I can't be with her all the time and when I am I haven't got the reserves one needs for an ill toddler so it's all a bit sad today...She's also got into a bit of habit of scratching the twins - one minute she'll be cuddling them and then she just lashes out. She only used to do this to me and DH when she was very tired, at the end of the day, and never to another kid. I know we're not doing anything wrong and she's ill and it's a huge adjustment for her, but I feel so torn, I want ALL my kids to be happy (and would certainly rather my newborn beauties didn't have massive gashes on their faces...) sigh.

I'm sure we'll adjust and especially when DD gets better - she's so rarely ill that we're all a bit useless at knowing how to deal with it!

desiren, I'm so sorry I didn't acknowledge your dad's death. What a hard time for that to happen. I hope you've got lots of support around you.

Morning. Am going to catch-up but like goingmad I'm going to do a quick 'me' post! Have been feeling tiny bits of movement for the last day or so but my LOs are having a great old time in my tum this morning. Feels totally amazing. Yay! and and !!

Great news on feeling the babies loop-the-loop in your tummies Going and Teds. It is very nice and reassuring isn't it?

Bad timing for a cold Rednellie! Hope you are beginning to feel better? Not sure how I would cope with three children and feeling poorly! I have been ill this week with a cold / flu thing and I have felt bad enough with just myself to look after! Feeling loads better today though so hope you are as well.

How are you feeling today dream? Have you chosen / appointed your 'mothers help' yet? when do they start? REally not long to go for you now - I had a sneeky look and your pictures and your bump is impressive - and you still look tiny everywhere else! I will see if I can brave putting a photo of me up....

How are you doing Desiren? I am sorry to hear about your Father. Must be a difficult time for you. Have you got supportive family nearby? And yes, we have all felt varying degrees of 'terrified' I think - and although I am now well used to the idea and very excited, I still get mad moments of panic! Its natural. Reading about how BB3, Claire and Rednellie are doing really does help - as does general off-loading to all the other twin-mummies to be!

Skitoo - you are due just before me! Do you feel like I do - that these babies could come any day now?! I really hope they stay inside for as long as possible - even though I am getting sooooooooo uncomfortable. 30 weeks definitely seems to be the point when we all really started to feel it.

Lilyini, the contracting and different levels of care and advice you get is so frustrating isnt it? Take the others advice I ask to see someone else - and let us know how you get on.

Still no news from Stinking!!!!

I am still in my dressing gown - very lazy. Although I have had a fairly productive morning of moving piles of things from room to room, and not actually doing anything with all the stuff I need to sort out! Sun is out though so going to get my arse in gear, get dressed and take a stroll to the local shop - I need me some yummy food!

Love to all x

Quickie as on phone on way to hospital but just wanted to say to Teds and Going for baby movements - WHOOP WHOOP!!!

Random question..... if I end up having to have a c-section, can I have my nails painted? I know, silly question but really fancy doing something to help me feel less of a blob.... but then someone said to me no point in getting nails done as it will all have to come off! any one know?

Hope you got on ok at the hosp Skitoo, just a check up I hope

bigboobs I suspect you'll be told 'no' and if there is any paper work given to you (telling you what will happen etc.) I think that will say no and they'll also be a no make-up rule. Yay for looking rubbish! However, based on my own surgery experience, it's very possible this won't be enforced/checked by the hospital. Could you have a nice pedicure but not get the nails painted?? Hope you managed to get your rearranging tidying done and find yummy food.

skitoo hope the scan went okay? Did you get a date? Or a date for when you'll get the date?!

Dream also hope your appointment was good and there was further reassurance about T2. You're so very close now!

bailey wow for triplets!! How did the family react? Triplet mums-to-be very welcome here.

going glad all was well with your girlies at the scan and that you can feel them too. It really is so lovely .

kazar pleased that 13 week scan was good. I'm having a difficult time with work so it looks like I'm going to work until 33 or 33+3 weeks on the basis that my remaining annual leave will be carried over. Would much prefer to finish at 32 weeks or earlier.

Rednellie I have managed to push the image of the tupperwared livered blood mass to the deepest recesses of my brain... but seriously hope you are okay! Sorry to hear you and DD have colds and also about the scratches - does sounds like you are taking it all in your stride though. Am also loving your boys' names more and more . claire loving the news about your cutelings too. It is reassuring to know that even though it's not easy it's still very special to be mum to twins.

Desirin really sorry to hear about your Dad and I can imagine that this only adds to the feeling of being overwhelmed which I'm sure all of us on here have felt. As skitoo says, I think the news on here from those who now have their babies is really helpful and reassuring.

Lilyni hope you are feeling better today. It sounds like your Obs was really unhelpful and like others have said I'd ask to see someone else next time. GD can make babies bigger but measurements can also be out. Definitely make sure you go back in two weeks not five and hope you're managed to hunt out something comforting and sweet to eat xxx

Stinking - what news of babies??

And BB3 - what news of New York?!!!

Just realised we have not heard from dream all day - very unusual! hope you aye ok. may be babies on the way?! Let us know you are alright x

oooh yes bigboobs very unlike dream hope your ok and just very busy today, pop on and let us know your ok.

thanks for all the good wishes re movements definitely from both today which is so lovely, yay for your movements too teds :)

Hi all,

How lovely to be missed .

It's just that I've been busy, and I barely dare whisper it, but DD is going to sleep earlier in the evening if we follow a very rigid early-nap routine in the day... Which is fab, but means she's up by 6:30 ish and I used to check in on mn while waiting for her to wake up at 8am ish after her 10pm bedtimes!!!!! She was up twice in the night and at 6:30 today though, so wouldn't say we're sorted yet, but maybe getting there....

WHOOP WHOOP for the movements teds and goingmad, such a lovely feeling when they start wriggling

bigboobs definitely not finger nails painted, as a CS is major surgery, they check your oxygen levels with a thing on your finger and it can't read through nail varnish.... in general anyway, maybe individual hospitals differ??

My scan was good. I had relaxed as I can feel T2 moving again anyway, and my bump has had a massive growth spurt so I really thought it'd be fine. And it was!! It will be wildly inaccurate again as they couldn't measure T1's head as it's too low in my pelvis, so that measurement is missed off the growth calculation altogether for him, plus they really struggled to get T2's abdomen measurement. I'd told the sonographer they were both head down, after I felt T2 move out of transverse on the monitors on Monday, and the mw said he was head down. After some fruitless searching, she checked up by my ribs and found his head, so he had turned- but transverse to breech!! They're estimated at 5lb 10 and 5lb 9 (for the head-less one ).

I will never go into labour, fear not ladies... I didn't first time round, even 30 hours after my waters broke (when my cervix was still 'unfavourable'- so high, closed, posterior, hard) which puts me in the 5% of women who don't go into labour within 24 hours of their waters breaking, and now with all this baby-weight and stretching still no signs (bar my B-H!). DH 'helpfully' told me in times gone by I'd be one of those women who die in childbirth for going way past dates and then baby so big, obstructing. Cheers for that dear!!!!!

And today, despite much suffering, I managed to decline an earlier date for my CS as better for the babies if I wait.... . But if I brought it forward to next week as offered and they needed any special care I'd feel dreadful for being so selfish, so 13 days left!!! I have to go in if these dratted BH get any worse, but hope will all be fine.

We met a nice lady today and are going with her for nanny/mother's help. The first lady we met I was unsure of- neither woman had recent young children experience, and the first one wasn't suggesting anything activity-wise appropriate for my pre-verbal little 18 month old iykwim... And then rang me today to say I seemed anxious about coping (I was more trying to explain the whole point of the job- so DD is included and I have time with her, and boys etc etc) and I should think positively about my cS scar after the birth and think 'it's beautiful, its part of me' and i should tell my babies I love them before they're born (which I do anyway at night when they're wriggling, often) but put me right off her!!!! Got a good vibe from the lady today- never once mentioned early years foundation stages (suits me!) and I just thought she'd be kind to them all. So on spot decision!

Sorry, all me me me

Great to hear from you Dream, I was beginning to wonder!

As suspected re nail varnish. I would never have got round to getting my nails done anyway - I dont usually get dressed until lunch!

Sounds like you are making real progress with DD Dream - well done you. My DD always wakes up around 6am, but to be honest that doesn't bother me too much as thats th time we have to get up when going to work etc - woudl much rather have the evengins to myself (and DH of course!). And my DD still wakes nearly every night - although I do get a glimmer of hope as she does sleep through on occasion. The challenges of sleep are never ending!

Good to hear scan went well - can't believe you only have 13 days left! well, 12 now! You are doing really well. And great news about your nanny / help. I think I would have told the first one to stick it up her arse (sorry) if she said I came across as anxious and worried about coping - thats really going to get her the job isnt it, making such supportive comments!!!!

How is every one else today? Feeling any better Rednellie?

Morning All

Hope the cold is easing Rednellie and the scratching thing with DD is just a brief phase . Thanks for the heads up on day 3 emotions, funny as our antenatal teacher said day 3 was Dolly Parton day with lots of tears!

Bigboobs am sorry to say that the c-sec leaflet thing from my hospital says no make-up or nail varnish. I'm the same as you, feeling that while I can't wear any of my lovely clothes or shoes I at least want my nails done! Am sporting a bright coral at the moment to cheer up the drab maternity clothes . But as Teds says, you might get away with it, especially if it's not a planned section? Yep I'm coming up for 33 weeks (never thought I'd say that ) but whilst I'm massive and getting really uncomfortable I don't feel like I'll pop for at least another couple of weeks.

You had us all wondering there for a minute Dream!! Fab news with DD sleeping, fingers crossed it continues. Glad scan was good, with exception of your little tinker turning upside down and that you feel more relaxed with their movements. I still can't work mine out . Your scan sounds very much like mine, lead twin is so far down in my pelvis you can't see any of his head and couldn't get the other ones legs because of position and lack of room but good to see them eh. Are the estimated weights you've got as of now or what they expect them to be at birth? Great weights anyhow . Well done on holding off on the cs date - we'll hold your hand through the next 13 days, or is that just 12 now?! And you just might pop earlier....?

So scan was good for me, actually a really emotional day as I finally thought yesterday that, yes I'm actually going to have babies and they're going to be alright (it's been a bit of a journey). So all looking good, both head down and even though they couldn't measure either of them to get an estimated weight, the sonographer, who is great and we've had for every scan, thinks with her trained eye, they will be c.6.5 lbs and 5.5lbs at 37 weeks, the big chubby checker one obviously taking after his father . Had really good chat with consultant, a new guy that we hadn't met before but he was fab and he booked me in for induction for 26th April when I'll be 37+3 but he said that by looking at me he doesn't think I'll make it that far!! Funny story too - woman he saw before me for her 32 week appt, he was having same chat and noticed her breathing was a bit erratic, asked her if ok, she said she was getting some pains, asked how often, about 10 mins, he asked if he could examine her....got her up on the couch, she was 10 cm dilated, so put her on a wheelchair to go straight up to delivery and her waters broke on the way!!! 10cm and just a bit of puffing, sounds alright to me .

Waves to everyone else - its nearly the weekend, hoorah! We're off to the inlaws, 3 hours away, smaller hoorah!

Oh skitoo, what a marvellous delivery- even I could do that!!! Great story :-) .
They've been saying 'if you go into labour in the next 2 weeks...' to me since the 30 week appointment, same as you! Yet here I am 36+1, and now its really hard I'm even more convinced I'll never pop. I just don't go into labour!!! Those weights were yesterday, not estimated for delivery day- I'm on for 6lb something whoppers!

Hello ladies,

I have a question: how did you find out you were expecting twins? Was it the 12wk scan, did you have an earlier scan for unrelated reason or did you just know?

I'm 12wk with DC2 and have my scan on tuesday. From the week before I found out I was pregnant I've been feeling exhausted (completely and utterly wiped out not just just tired) and I have suffered from nausea pretty much from the start too.

With DS I had 5 days of sickness and wasn't that tired - I was working full time so I didn't really have the luxury to have naps.

I don't know why but I've had a really strong feeling I'm carrying twins this time... DH says it's because I'm older but I was 28 and now I'm 31 so I'm hardly geriatric!

So I'm just interested in knowing if you had a feeling it was twins and why.

Thanks!

whenhen, yes, you are hardly past it my dear! I hadn't an inclinning I was carrying twins till I saw the two damn heads on the ultrasound. BUT I did feel a lot worse than my first pregnancy, much more nautious and tired...I just put it down to being a second pregnancy and having a toddler. But don't think about it yet - wait till your scan! And then come join us when you know for sure

dream - that all sounds good. Glad DD is getting to grips with bedtime, I think routines are the way to go anyway once you've got the twins so it'll be simpler if you have a really set up one for DD. Also glad the scan went well, isn't it funny how much they can move around with so little space? I understand it now though as Idris was the twin B who was breech, head down, breech, head down and now he's here he's incredibly strong - he can hold his head up and almost looks like he's trying to crawl when I give him tummy time. Anyway, can't wait to hear how you get along, it'll be lovely to have you over the other side!

skitoo - big hugs for you. It is emotional isn't it? And yes, you are going to have two wonderful babies and be a fantastic mum. xxx

Thanks everyone for the kind thoughts - we're all much better. I had a massive dip yesterday where I had a huge temperature and could hardly breath as my sides were all sore from coughing so much. Thanks to stacking iburpofen and paracetamol (both safe with bf) I got the fever down and now feel much better. I'm going to the GP though as I've always had a bit of issue with my chest (too much god damn smoking when I was cool and an idiot) so I want to get it looked at properly now I'm not pregnant.

The boys continue to be amazing - honestly, they really are lovely. We've got a nice routine now and I even managed the last two nights to put them down to bed upstairs and come down and watch tv with DH and Mum and have supper at the table!!! I'm sure that didn't happen with DD until she was about 9 months old. I honestly think you should have a trial first child to get all your worrying/stressing/mistakes out of the way, as second time round it all feels so much easier. Even they're crying doesn't rip my heart out quite as much as DD. Partly because Madoc's cry makes him sound like a baby terradactyl...but don't tell him that.

Nice twin moment - put them both on their tummies and they both start sucking their thumbs on the same side. Cute. Right need to put pictures up don't I. Am going to find a bump one and a baby one...

whenhens, I had no idea I was having twins til the 12 week scan. However, I was also absolutely floored by morning sickness/hyperemesis, surviving on crisps and diarolyte and anti-emetics and exhausted. Totally shattered. People were saying 'oooh, maybe its twins' and I totally disregarded it, as it had been said in my first pg- when I was also sick, but not as badly... I also was told by the mw at my booking in appt, who felt my tummy as I was so bad with the puking, 'no, I can't feel a fundus, often you can if its twins' and I was thinking of course its not twins you daft lady . Well, she was wrong! I thought I was having a boy, that was the difference. Well, I was, but not just one of them! Come and tell us on Tuesday, hope to see you over here

rednellie, your boys sound just gorgeous and perfect and I can't tell you how I am of your lovely newborn snuggles. You sound so positive too, despite being pretty blooming ill yourself. I notice you are suspicously quiet about the nights though?!?! Dying to see both your bump pic and your babies. Has the itching disappeared now the babies are born? I will aim to emulate your marvellous coping when I finally meet mine! Hope your DD is better ASAP too. I'm thinking of you a lot!!

And now look . An almighty kick off by Her Majesty today- wouldn't go down for her nap despite being clearly knackered, and now kciking off upsatirs big tie about bedtime.... FFS. I must learn not to mention any improvement, it causes an instantaneous setback .

skitoo, here here, two pretty well cooked babies now for you, you'll be a twin mummy of twins on the outside before you know it

Thanks dream - you lot meant a lot to me in the last few weeks/months of pregnancy. Nights go something like this:

10pm feed, DH settles
12.30am/1am feed, DH settles and grumbles
3.30/4am feed, DH and I have a civilised chat (I'm being serious)
6.45am feed.

Not bad.

And compared with the amount of sleep I was getting with PUPPS it is a DELIGHT.

rednellie. Your dh is clearly a star too. No way could I have a civilised chat with dh at 3:30!!

Hello ladies

Dream / skitoo, you're almost there! Was trying to catch up and could hardly believe you are so far gone - dream I remember way back when in the early worry wart days for you and you desperately wanting to get to 20 weeks (like all twin mothers!).
Cannot believe the next wave of babies are coming so soon!

I'm so sorry I can't remember who asked but you can't wear nail varnish for cs even emergency ones (I had one) and they check (at that point I cared not a bit for how I looked though so wasn't wearing any). No jewellery, no make up etc

Dream are those boys wriggling away?

Yay for feeling the babies ladies xx

Rednellie, I loved those early days, all cuddly, sleepy and settled! you are doing so well, how is dd now?

New York was great, I went alone to stay with my best friend for three days. My parents, sister and dh had the kids between then and I left them with a mountain of milk and I don't think they missed me a bit . Leaving them was harder than I thought but once I was there I very much enjoyed having grown up time! But it's also lovely to be back.

The girls are great, they were 6 months old on Tuesday. Ayse-Rose us commando crawling across the room and Edith-May lives her food (hence not moving quite as much ) and will okay with toys / books for hours if I let her (she's definitely the studious one). I can't remember if I said that ds was diagnosed with hearing difficulties because if severe glue ear so we are in the process of referrals to ent and I'm desperately hoping the treatment will help so we can get him caught up on his speech.

Hope everyone is doing ok xxx

And by okay clearly I meant play!!!

Re reading that this morning with the appalling spelling makes me realise I should not stay up late, toddler bed times clearly suit me better!!!