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Clarinet60 · 17/03/2003 14:47

This is a message for Moomin, really. I'm having trouble finding someone to talk to about a bizarre thing that is happening to me (well, I think it's bizarre anyway). My dad died when I was 4. I spoke to my mum on Christmas day and at the end of the call, she casually mentioned that my dad had been on TV in October on a program about Melson Mandela (he was involved in anti-apardheid demos), and the camera had settled on his face for quite a long time during footage of a march, in close-up. Given her quite a shock. She's in the process of getting a tape of it from ITV.

My issues are three-fold. I feel very strange about seeing him when we eventually get the tape, as it will be like seeing a ghost.
My mum never talks about him unless I bring the subject up and even then, she only answers direct questions, so you have to know the right questions to ask. (But you'd have to know what you were talking about then, in which case, why would you be asking, ARGHHH!) So I only have a child's memory of him, which includes smell, what foods he liked and what it felt like to ride on his shoulders. I don't know anything about the man, not even what his views were (aside from politics) what sort of music he liked, what they argued about, etc....
I'm not getting anywhere when I try to talk to friends. I think your dad being on TV when he's been dead for over 30 years is a big thing. They just seem to say, 'oh.' I understand that it can be hard to know what to say to bereaved people, it's just that the fact that nobody cares is very hard to take. I think that's the worst part about bereavement - nobody cares, everyone who knew them has gone. You are only allowed to talk about it for so long and NO LONGER.

Sorry, longer than I intended. I just wondered whether any of this resonates, or am I just barking?

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Clarinet60 · 21/03/2003 21:39

Thanks eemie, I will.

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Clarinet60 · 21/03/2003 21:42

lilibet, can I be a pain and ask for a full reference for this poem? I might need it if I ever get round to writing about my dad properly.
Thanks.

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ScummyMummy · 21/03/2003 21:53

I like that poem very much, Lilibet.

I think it will resonate a lot with many of the people who've contributed to this thread. Best wishes to you all. I think there are some incredibly moving and thoughtful posts here.

lilibet · 21/03/2003 23:09

So glad that you liked it. My copy is in a book which is available on Amazon. It's called 'For all occasions' and is a really good selection of poetry and prose. It has been compiled by Peter Barkworth. The poem is called 'How long does a man live' and is by Brian Patten.

Clarinet60 · 23/03/2003 12:05

Moomin, if you ever want to talk privately, get my email from tech, or wherever one gets them from (never done this before!)
XX

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WideWebWitch · 23/03/2003 13:50

I cried in the supermarket today because the woman at the deli counter was surly and it just hit me that my dad would have chatted to her, charmed her and made her feel better about life in 2 seconds flat. He would have walked away with some cheese and a new admirer...I dreamt about him last night and woke up crying. I know some of this is pregnancy hormones but it feels as if there's an important person I haven't been able to tell because my dad isn't here. Ds very sweetly said this morning "don't worry, he's up in the sky and can see you and is always there you know." I just wanted to get this off my chest, it's been on my mind all day. Thanks.

janh · 23/03/2003 17:49

DS is right - what a wonderful cheering comment! - he is always there. With a relationship like the one you obviously had with your dad you can be sure he knows all about it.

bossykate · 23/03/2003 19:40

sorry you are feeling miserable, www. it's probably a number of things - pregnancy and giving up smoking would do it even if you weren't still grieving for your father. what a wonderful comment from your ds! bet you gave that woman on the deli counter a shock - she might even change her ways! hope you are feeling better soon.

Clarinet60 · 23/03/2003 22:10

sorry you're missing him, www. Hope the dream was comforting too.

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Tinker · 23/03/2003 22:29

I'm sorry you're missing him as well, www. Your dad lives on in your son and the new baby (hope that doesn't sound trite).

tigermoth · 24/03/2003 13:03

www, I used to cry at things just like that - my mum could charm strangers too. I wasn't pregnant, so wasn't hormonal. It's just that you come across situations that you know they would have handled so well...

Over three years on, around 9.30 am each morning I still get this sad, aimless feeling, a sense of forgetting to do something. It was when my mum used to phone me to chat about my coming day.

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