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Post mortem and funeral stress.

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sleeptight1 · 13/04/2024 15:34

My Mum died suddenly on 3rd April and while she had health conditions it was unexpected so there has to be a post mortem.

She died 3rd April, however, I have been told that she will not be returned to the funeral directors from the post mortem until 26th April. The funeral directors are saying that if she is returned on 26th the funeral will be the 15th May. This will be about 6 weeks from the date of death. I can't stop thinking of how much she will detoriate in the three weeks she is with the coroner as she will not be embalmed. Two of the grandchildren also have GCSE exams on the 15th and literally everyweek day until June. The thought of my mum being left for 6 weeks or longer really gives me anxiety. One of my children is doing his gcse's and we have discussed it and he said that his love for his grandmother is not based on whether he is there or not and that he would do something on a different day to mark her death and life so as not to delay proceedings. However, the other grandchild lives further away and really wants to be there which means we may have to delay until June.

For me, a three week post mortem is just another way in which our services are failing. It is bad enough that my mum has to be cut open and messed about with while slowly rotting in a fridge wearing just the nightwear she was taken in. Then to have to wait another 3 weeks or so for a service.

I am doing ok when at home in my safe cocoon but ventured out to the supermarket yesterday and nearly burst into tears when I realised i had forgotten a pound for the trolley. Then later on was driving my husbands car to take my son to a doctors appointment as he's been having asthma attacks since seeing us do CPR on my mum when we found her. I happened to pull away at traffic lights maybe a second longer than usual due to not being used to the car and a women started putting her hand on the horn all the way up the rode, even though there was a furniture truck in front of me so I couldn't go any faster, When she pulled off down a seperate road she flipped her middle finger at me. It really upset me but also made me feel rage I've not felt before. I can see how road rage happens. All my emotions seem to be more elevated. This woman would barely have bothered me before.

Just needed to let that out.

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jay55 · 13/04/2024 15:45

It's really shit. Really really shit.
I'm sorry for your loss and sorry you're going through this.

Had the same when my mum died, postmortem required so we had to wait ages before we could even register the death and the time in limbo was excruciating.
She was dead but not legally and we just had to wait and wait.

Sending you all the good vibes to get through this time. Be kind to yourself.

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sleeptight1 · 13/04/2024 15:53

jay55 · 13/04/2024 15:45

It's really shit. Really really shit.
I'm sorry for your loss and sorry you're going through this.

Had the same when my mum died, postmortem required so we had to wait ages before we could even register the death and the time in limbo was excruciating.
She was dead but not legally and we just had to wait and wait.

Sending you all the good vibes to get through this time. Be kind to yourself.

@jay55 I hope you don't mind me asking but were you able to view your mum after the post mortem? We've been warned that they may advise us not to view but obviously they can't stop us if we wanted to.

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MrsLeonFarrell · 13/04/2024 16:00

I would strongly suggest that you take the advice of the funeral director about whether she is still viewable, as they call it. I'm sure you have lovely memories of your mum, don't let them be tarnished.

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Mepop · 13/04/2024 16:01

I am so sorry. My Dad died at the end of last year. His funeral was 7 weeks after his death due to the post mortem. The funeral director would not set a date until the coroner released his body. It is so difficult.

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Babyroobs · 13/04/2024 16:02

Post mortems do not necessarily mean your mum has to be cut open. they can do some by scanning to determine cause of death. Sorry for what you are going through, we had the same with my mum but PM was within a couple of weeks.

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gamerchick · 13/04/2024 16:14

My daughter was with the coroner for 3 weeks for postmortem OP. I saw her in her natural state at the hospital before the postmortem and it was obvious she was decaying. When she was at the funeral home we went to see her again and they had done an amazing job making her fit for viewing. All we could see however was her head and she looked like she had aged a fair bit but it was ok.

The funeral director will be able to advise you but they're pretty good at their job.

I'm so sorry for your loss.

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jay55 · 13/04/2024 16:14

Yes, at the funeral home. I chose not to but my dad and sister spent time with her.

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Tcateh · 13/04/2024 16:20

My mum wasn't embalmed.
Was at the funeral home stored. No postmortem but a bit of a wait 3 weeks for funeral.
Advised to view before 2 weeks after her death.
She looked ok. I'm glad she didn't look all made up.
I guess I'm saying, I didn't realise not all funeral places embalm so even after two weeks she looked ok.

I'm not sure if that's normal.

I'm so sorry for your loss op.

It's the first mum's birthday with her not here today.

Hugs and strength to you.

Xx

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DoAWheelie · 14/04/2024 03:13

Similar happened with my dad. He died in January but wasn't found for two days. Post mortem required. The funeral ended up being 5.5 weeks later.

I ended up not going to a viewing. I had some regrets about it at first but then a month ago I lost my OH. I got to the hospital just 10 mins too late. I ended up spending 4 hours with him. When I first arrived he looked like the OH I knew. By the end I left as changes were already happening and I didn't want to see more.

It removed my regrets about not seeing my dad. I'm glad I stayed with OH as long as I did but I'm also glad I left when I did. I'd think very carefully about viewing your mother - sometimes it's better to let your memories stay as they are.

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DobbyTheHouseElk · 14/04/2024 16:08

It’s very difficult, your mind takes you to some dark places. I saw my Dad moments after he had passed, and then stayed for a few hours. Changes happened very quickly, it surprised me really. I didn’t want to see his body again. I wanted to keep the good memories.
Everyone is different and feels things differently. I would be guided by the funeral directors.

When I spoke to the coroner they said more people are having a PM due to Harold Shipman. Unfortunately it is very normal now to have a PM.

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Piscesmumma1978 · 16/04/2024 18:40

My dad died on Sunday and they’ve requested a postmortem. I’m expecting a long wait as they’ve said they’re busy.

i think I’ll wait to see him until he’s in the funeral home. Or would anyone suggest now before the PM?

It’s a horrible time isn’t it x

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DobbyTheHouseElk · 17/04/2024 20:24

Piscesmumma1978 · 16/04/2024 18:40

My dad died on Sunday and they’ve requested a postmortem. I’m expecting a long wait as they’ve said they’re busy.

i think I’ll wait to see him until he’s in the funeral home. Or would anyone suggest now before the PM?

It’s a horrible time isn’t it x

I’d go now if you can. But you might not be allowed. It’s a horrible time. I’m so sorry for your loss. We had a wait of about 10 days. But we didn’t want to visit afterwards. We were there at the time of death so felt we’d said our goodbyes. I’m sure the funeral director will advise you, they are very kind people.

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hobocock · 18/04/2024 11:44

I'm sorry for your loss.
My dad also died suddenly and had to have a postmortem. They also said 3 weeks but it was done more quickly and I think it was 8 days after his death when his body was released so it is possible that she might be released earlier and you are able to have a funeral a bit earlier.
Can you explain to the funeral directors about the grandchildren's exams to see if it is possible to find a more suitable date so that they can be there if the want?

We've been warned that they may advise us not to view but obviously they can't stop us if we wanted to
This is what the funeral director said to me about my Dad. He would advise me not to view but he couldn't stop me if I wanted to. So I decided not to because funeral directors are in the best position to know what changes have taken place or will have taken place by the time of a possible viewing and will have experience of the effect that has on the people viewing.
I am glad that I did not view him. My Dad had been dead around 24 hours before he was found (by another relative) and she said that changes had already begun to take place at that point.

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sleeptight1 · 18/04/2024 16:17

I heard from the coroner today they had some answers from the post mortem, which they were able to do with scan alone. She died from a heaemopericardium (bleeding into the heart) caused by aortic dissection (year in the Aorta artery) contributed to by Rheumatoid arthritis, High blood pressure and frailty. They are releasing the body to the funeral director and we can register the death. This is a strange kind of way has given me a sense of peace. I now know the CPR was futile and checking on her earlier would not have made any difference to the outcome.

My mum had a multitude of illnesses associated with her RA and I feel that she would not have been able to emotionally coped with any more news or diagnosis .If she had been told she had heart disease and the potential for sudden loss of life, she would never have slept soundly again. I am glad she died never knowing she had a heart problem and that she died at home in her bed, where she felt safe. She had to go to hospital in an ambulance 4 times in her later life and the thought of ambulances and hospital scared her. I will miss her dreadfully and her death was a terrible shock to us, but if our shock prevented her from months of emotional pain knowing she had a heart condition I would take that any day.

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DobbyTheHouseElk · 18/04/2024 20:18

@sleeptight1

I am so sorry for your loss. Losing a loved one suddenly is a huge trauma and a lot to process. I hope now you have the PM results you have a bit of understanding why it happened and that gives you some peace.

It seems so cruel to have to wait to register the death. Especially when things seem so set up for a straight forward situation. Everyone we spoke to was so kind, I hope you have the same.

I’m sure you know, but the “tell it once” scheme is very useful when informing the government related agencies.

Look after yourself. Flowers

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