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I’m really struggling and DH doesn’t get it.

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Shefliesonherownwings · 11/07/2021 11:57

I’m not sure if this is the right place to post but I posted before about my loss and got so much support I thought you all could help. Just over 18 months ago, DH and I lost our firstborn, our DD. She was stillborn at 41 weeks, she passed away during labour.

I fell pregnant again last year and DS was born last October, he’s now 8 months and just a total joy. But needless to say the last 19 months have been beyond difficult.

When DS was born I was diagnosed with Generalised Anxiety disorder, much of which was based around DS and something happening to him. I’ve been having CBT which has really helped. I finally feel able to enjoy DS and not let anxiety take over. But in the last month, I feel like my grief over DD is incredibly intense again, and a lot of things relating to her death and her birth are rearing up. My CBT therapist says this can often happen when the anxiety is brought under control as it is usually masking the underlying issues which come to the forefront once the anxiety subsides enough.

I had bereavement counselling all last year until DS was born which helped a lot. But I was pregnant during most of it and talked a lot about fears and anxiety around the pregnancy. I do feel that there is a lot of stuff to do with losing DD that I haven’t processed.

As a result I’m struggling to sleep, my mood is very low and I’m in a place where I don’t really want to see anyone, and I don’t want anyone seeing DS. I want to just keep him home with me in a protective bubble. I know this isn’t healthy or fair on DS so my therapist is going to look into further counselling for me once my CBT sessions conclude.

But the bigger issue is DH and I. He’s had his own struggles since losing DD. He’s had treatment for PTSD and depression which helped. Lately though he’s been really struggling with his job. To the point that he feels he can’t do it anymore. He moved to a new role in the same place earlier in the year but things are no better. He feels he’s not trained for anything else so he has no chance of moving to a different field. He’s become quite down and withdrawn about it. I’ve suggested lots of things including that I go back to work early (I’m still on mat leave) and he quit his job, take some time out and re-evaluate. We can’t really afford that as he’s the higher earner but his MH is more important. He doesn’t want me to do that. But anything I’ve suggested he doesn’t want to do. He’s just withdrawn into his phone and doesn’t really engage with me anymore. Since I’ve had my struggles over the last month, he doesn’t seem to care. I’ve tried talking to him but he doesn’t listen, literally doesn’t hear me as he’s on his phone. Yesterday he was in a mood with me because I didn’t want to go out anywhere and he blamed me for another rubbish weekend. I told him I was really struggling, had a lot going on in my head, wasn’t sleeping etc… and I got no reply. Literally silence. I told him I can’t talk to him and there was still nothing.

Whenever he’s felt rough I always ask him what’s wrong, how can I help, what does he need, or just listen and try to understand. But I’m getting none of that from him, it’s like doesn’t care anymore.

I don’t know what to do, but I’m starting to really resent him and resent living this way. This is just the tip of the iceberg too as there’s a lot more I resent in terms of him pulling his weight with DS/housework and so on. I’ve tried so many times to talk about these things that I’m kind of done trying. I’m wondering if we’d be better apart.

Has anyone else’s relationship with a partner disintegrated like this after a loss? Any advice?

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endofthelinefinally · 11/07/2021 12:04

This is really tough and my first suggestion would be to do everything you can to get more counselling for both of you, either separately or together.
Having said that, I feel hypocritical because I am dealing with my own issues around the loss of my child and I know that I need counselling myself, but I have been too ill/too busy supporting everyone else to really put myself first. DH and I are coping in different ways and much of the time our coping mechanism is to distract and get through one day at a time. We are retired though, so the pressure to work/earn isn't there.
The one thing that has been enormously helpful for me is the bereavement board on here. Without that I think I would have gone mad.
I am so sorry for your loss.
Flowers

VettiyaIruken · 11/07/2021 12:05

Im so so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine how difficult it must be.
Have you been in contact with Sands?

takemehometoasda · 11/07/2021 12:17

Firstly, I'm sorry for all you've been through.

Has your therapist talked to you about trauma? You sound traumatised. What you're describing are classic trauma symptoms. Perhaps you're now ready to start working on it as trauma rather than just the anxious symptoms of trauma. Is that the kind of referral you're exploring?

I hope so, because I suspect a trauma approach could make a huge difference to you and also enable you to perhaps be slightly kinder to yourself/understand yourself better. Counselling is not a NICE approved intervention for trauma as it tends to make it worse, so I also hope you're just using that term as shorthand for another trauma-focused therapy.

I know this isn't strictly what you asked about, but I have seen so many traumatised people fall through the gaps for years being offered anxiety or depression treatments (often being labelled "treatment resistant" ), when the trauma is what is causing the anxiety/depression and needs to be addressed before the anxiety/depression can resolve. When they finally get onto a trauma pathway things improve for them. If your CBT is with NHS IAPT they aren't always equipped to respond to trauma as their training is only really for anxiety/depression and sometimes you do have to be the one to flag it yourself to kickstart the right referrals as they don't assess for it otherwise.

In particular your comments before and after this leapt out to me as classic trauma:

I want to just keep him home with me in a protective bubble.

Your sense of safety has been disrupted (understandably) and that is really important to healing from trauma. The lack of sleep, low mood, not wanting to see anyone, being focused on trying to protect your son and keep him safe. Trauma.

Trauma can also make you feel isolated and angry and pull you away from other people.

It's fairly normal for grief to pull people apart too unfortunately. Things sound really difficult. I'm sorry I don't really have any advice on that aspect, but I do agree that the way he's treating you doesn't seem fair.

Shefliesonherownwings · 11/07/2021 13:09

Thanks everyone, I appreciate the kind words. I think DH and I would benefit from couples counselling as our communication is terrible, on both sides. The problem is, he’s against counselling of any kind so I know if I suggested it, he wouldn’t want to. In fairness I haven’t ever suggested it to him but he is so dead against any counselling for himself that in sure he won’t go for it. Which makes me sad because I feel he isn’t trying and then i think why should be the only one trying, it’s hard enough without doing it all on my own.

@takemehometoasda I agree that I am traumatised and this is what I think I am feeling so intensely now. Losing DD and the way we lost DD was traumatic, l still can’t believe it actually happened to us. I’m not sure what my therapist is looking into, she said she was going to go away and see what was available. If what is on offer isn’t specifically trauma based, do you know how I would access something for trauma?

I haven’t been in touch with Sands lately, I used them a lot when we first lost DD and when I was pregnant but not for a while. I’m not sure what help they can offer with this.

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PandasCatsWolves · 11/07/2021 13:29

I'm sorry for your loss. It's such a sad situation. I'm probably pointing out the obvious here.

When I read your post I see the situation with your DHs health and yours being entirely symptomatic of your bereavement and subsequent second child being born.

Couples struggle a lot with the first year of a child without having had a dreadful loss. You've had a mammoth event to contend with as well. It's so very hard.

I'd encourage you to see the bigger picture - though I know your DH has to be in the same space too. With the right help for you all, you can heal from your loss and move on to ensure you have a lovely family unit for your son. I'd see that as the goal here. That's not to say it's easy at all.

There is a podcast call The Grieving Moms podcast - hosted by a lady in US who lost her child to SIDS type thing. She does short manageable and optimistic podcasts that might be useful.

Good luck.

endofthelinefinally · 11/07/2021 13:44

I think fear of counselling is very real. It has taken me over 4 years to get to a place where I can even contemplate talking to a counsellor about the traumatic and shocking way my son died. Unpacking and dealing with it all is terrifying for me. It has been the same for his siblings and my DH. DS2 is only just engaging with counselling and support now, having had a complete breakdown after losing his big brother.
I really do feel for you, but it is such a complicated thing and I don't have the answers. I can really understand that your DH might be really frightened of counselling and is just holding everything together the only way he thinks/believes he can.

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