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I killed my husband. UPDATE.

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mommytoangel2 · 07/08/2017 18:50

Well it's nearly 3 weeks since DH died. A week tomorrow since his funeral. I have no idea how that went so fast.

I'm not coping.

His best friend (only friend) was a tower of strength to me, but since I told him about the notes, I feel like he's pulled away slightly. (Might just be in my head). He's obviously carrying on with his life as well he should, but I'm terrified of losing him, he's my only connection to Dave (DH). I try not to bother him too much but I don't want to lose him. He says he doesn't mind me texting him at all if it helps, but I feel like I bother him.

I have had 2 counselling sessions and another booked in for next week. They help but not for long.

If you read my last thread you''ll know DH's suicide note simply said he could no longer live in fear of false prosecution and being beaten up by my friends/family. Followed by asking the police to check his phone for emails/messages which would "tell them all they need to know" and "please save my girls from that monster". His letter says he is sorry to the kids he couldn't protect them from me and that he loves them. He left 2 other sheets of paper full of examples of domestic abuse I'd apparently done. Some true, some lies, some twisted versions of the truth.

Anyway

He had £1200 on him in cash and thousands in the bank. He had written on the notes telephone numbers of refuges/male domestic violence helplines (why? so the police would ring them and see what he said?) He could have left.

Then it hit me.

If he leaves, or stays, the threat remains. At any time I could report him to the police. This is something he was worried about, though to what extent I don't know. After smacking DD, it's possible he worried more, as she would back up my accusation.

So maybe his note was true - he killed himself because he couldn't live in fear of prosecution. Every time we argued I threatened to report him to the police for his previous violence. I told him I had proof.

The counsellor has explained that DH's reality isn't necessarily reality.. For example, he didn't just deny he had been violent, he went as far as to say I was making it all up, spreading lies etc.

I am struggling with every day reminders, silly things like at Christmas he'd get excited that pringles were £1, now I'm dreading it. I bought some cheesecake but can't bear to eat it as he'd always save me half of his. Can't watch our favourite tv show anymore.

I feel like I don't mourn, during the day I am on autopilot for the kids, I feel ok, like I can do this etc. I have the odd fleeting memory or moment but I'm too busy to dwell. Then when the kids are in bed, assuming they behave, I start to obsess over the suicide.

His family blame me, they told me in no uncertain terms that the whole family blame me for his death as I'd thrown him out the day before. They also blame me for him cutting them off 6 years ago. In reality, DH cut them off as his mum threatened to report him to social services for his violence, and his brother is a convicted paedophile so we kept our distance. I don't know if DH ever missed them or regretted it, he never seemed to - though I do recall he seemed a bit wistful recently. He had a terrible childhood, his dad was abusive to his mum and his children, emotionally too.

I recall DH asking me when we met if I was ever worried he'd turn into his dad. I'm ashamed to say he did, and I told him so in a row a few years back.

I'm just not coping.

I blame myself because he blamed me. In his last email to me, his suicide note and his lists of domestic abuse, not once does he mention loving me. The closest it gets is him saying "I gave you everything I had, built my life for our family, did everything you ever asked but it wasn't enough, nothing ever is"

No declaration of love (apart from to our girls), just blame and accusations.

The method he chose he planned meticulously and knew would work. No room for escape or cry for help, no time.

It would've been our 10 year wedding anniversary next May.

I'm just not coping - how could he do this to me, to the girls? Why? Did he mean it?

In my heart he did it out of anger/spite, but he knew it wouldn't fail so he must have meant it. Or maybe he didn't WANT to but felt he HAD to.

I just don't feel like I can go on. I'd never hurt myself because I couldn't do that to our daughters, but at the same time I feel like my life stopped when he did. I don't eat, or watch tv, I just look after the kids then obsess.

My head says if he wanted the kids to be taken from me, he would have put more in place - reported me to social services/police, written lists of how "bad" or "abusive" I was to them, or hell just snatched them from me. But then my anxiety says, as per his email, he failed to protect them from me and paid the price (death), so his letter was a final desperate plea, that they'd read our emails, find me mental and take the kids. Yet he's dead, left them with me, without being 100% certain anyone would take the kids.

His note seems too rushed, too short and concise - almost like it was written in the day and he decided in the evening what to do. He certainly had a lot of time - he bought the equipment at 5pm, no idea what he did til he emailed me at 1.30am, and died at some time before 6am

I don't know what to do anymore. I look at my girls and feel guilt that their father is dead because of me, that he misses them grow up because of me. Whether he killed himself or not he did so because of me.

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QueenBeex · 07/08/2017 19:30

You really shouldn't blame yourself. Flowers

erinaceus · 09/08/2017 12:49

mommytoangel2 Crikey. That is tough. What a lot to hold on to.

This might sound incredibly trite, but in times of terror I am a practical person. Do you have any on-the-ground support beyond your weekly counselling session? How old are your daughters? Are you working at the moment?

Autopilot is not unusual in times of incredible stress. Stay safe.

Flowers
greendale17 · 09/08/2017 12:55

His family blames you and I imagine his best friend does/ will do. I wouldn't count on him staying in touch with you after the funeral

Trickycat · 09/08/2017 13:01

It is very early days and normal to feel overwhelmed. You have a lot to process, a lot. Be kind to yourself. You are not superhuman, you must be traumatized.
Keep up with the counselling, that will be important in helping you cope.

Fortheloveofdog · 10/08/2017 09:51

A friend's ex-partner committed suicide a few months ago, and I'm going to give you the same advice as I gave her - Don't spend your time trying to find a rational reason for what he did. Planning suicide is not rational thought.
I spent years trying to rationalise the suicide of a close relative, and since following the idea that you can't rationalise you only stress yourself out, I've found it easier.
To think that suicide is a solution is a very desperate frame of mind. The common theme is that the person thinks the world would be better without them for those close to them. Rationally we know that this is not the case, but they are prevented from seeing things the same way by the issues in their minds. You cannot change what has happened, people often need to find blame after suicide as his family have done, but he could have left you without going this far. Don't keep going over and over it, it won't help you. His mind led him to the choices he made. Flowers

hesterton · 10/08/2017 09:59

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endofthelinefinally · 10/08/2017 10:07

OP
There will be an inquest.
The police and the coroner will look into it all. They will talk to you and his GP.
You are not to blame.
It sounds as if you need to cut contact with your DH's family who are understandably looking for someone to blame.
You dont even have to tell them the date of the inquest.
I am so sorry you are going through this. It is clear that your DH was not thinking or functioning ok.

BananaSandwichesEveryDay · 10/08/2017 10:09

He made the choice. I haven't read your other thread, but from your op, it sounds as though he had some mh issues which contributed to what he did.
Yes, his family will blame you - it's easier for them to blame you than to l
own their own part in it. His childhood experiences would all have played a part in making him the adult he became.

No relationship is perfect -we all have disagreements sometimes and it sounds as though you were no different to any other couple in that respect. What was different though, was HIS response to it. It sounds as though it was his default to blame you and yours to accept blame. Yes he might have been trying to punish you for something, but that doesn't mean you actually did anything wrong and certainly not something that warranted HIS reaction.

Blaming yourself is part of the grief journey, as is anger - at yourself and at the deceased. Could you talk to your gp and get a referral for grief counselling? I'm sure that talking to someone 'removed'from the situation would be more helpful to you?

Flowers
mommytoangel2 · 10/08/2017 21:45

thank you for replying everyone, it helps.

DH's friend doesn't blame me and we are in touch several times a week. He told me today that he and DH used to go for drinks every monday, this shocked me as DH said they never went after work and rarely in the day, he made out like they never saw each other, but in reality were close!

He also told me that the day before DH died, he lent him one of his tools. ANY other time he was scrupulous about getting them back, checking them etc - not this day. So obviously he knew he wouldn't be coming back to work. And he didn't, as he was dead by 6am.

There was a form in his van for police access request - the kind of form you need to find out all the information police hold on you. Not like a CRB/DBS, more a freedom of information type thing. Signed but not dated and obviously not sent. I was also told there was another form about emigrating to Australia, but the man has now backtracked and is suggesting this isn't the case.

There was a notebook, with 1 page listing the dates I'd kicked him out in April, and amounts he'd spent at hotels. Another page listing amounts of money, almost like what he had left (for example he writes +£500 then -440 and I know the 440 was his rental deposit)

All of the above is being sent to the police station, though the man who found it has sent me photos of it. DH's friend also said he told him there was a form for emigration to Australia and is jjust as confused as I am!

I haven't spoken to DHs family since, as tbh he hadn't spoken to them in years and didn't even want them at his funeral. I only invited them as she is his mother. Rather than be grateful I'd even told them he'd passed, they blame me for his death and for him not seeing them for so many years. I understand they are grieving but it is wrong to do that to me. In fact, I suggest his childhood had a lot to do with it!

There will be an inquest but I am told this is to solely determine who died, how and when, NOT why. The notes will not be shown/read out, but his family can request to see them (I've asked the coroner to consider this carefully as the notes blame me and it's a safety risk. He'd also written not allowed to see friends/family which they will jump on despite the fact he hated them and wrote it to spite me)

I collected his ashes today and ordered some jewellery to combine with his ashes. I found that surprisingly easy to do, I was shocked. I ordered myself a ring and 2 necklaces (one per daughter) which are blue pendants. I figure it can be their "something new, something blue" at their weddings, and a way of their dad physically being there with them.

It is still all so surreal, seeing his name on the urn, on anything stating his death. How many times have I seen/written his name in 11 years and to now see it like that....

I have a counsellor and it helps, though I can't seem to follow his advice of not obsessing constantly. I have anxiety but my GP feels it's best I get the obsessing done so that its over and I can feel the grief. Thing is, it's overwhelming

Take any fact. Like, he was wearing his wedding ring when he died. Logic says he wore it because he wanted to, because in his head we were still married (and every argument he always kept it on, stating he was still married when I asked why he kept it on when I left etc). My mind says "maybe he forgot / maybe he didn't think to remove it / maybe he thought it'd get stolen and wanted it for the girls / maybe he didn't care if it was on" etc etc.

I get like that over any detail, any fact. Fact is, he had it on and if he wanted it off it would've been. So why do I do this?

I do feel it was my fault, he was paranoid about the police because I kept threatening it. My sister says it's like kids, threaten to do something 1000000 times and don't do it, they never believe you. And even if he did, why not wait til it happened and defend himself or kill himself then? Unless he thought he'd go immediately to prison?

He obviously had the form for the police request to see what they had on him, either to emigrate (I doubt), to see what "proof" I had, to see what I'd accused him of, to see what was said about him, who knows. But he never sent the form off, why not?

What I cannot understand is why he didn't say bye to the girls. Not even a normal goodbye like when he left for work. The last time he spoke to them was Thursday night when he was yelling/smacking DD1. He killed himself the following Weds morning. Why no goodbye to them or me?

If he loved me, why was he planning to leave and/or emigrate?

My friends/family feel it was a case of "oh god I smacked DD1, she says she'll never forgive me, she's thrown me out, if she reports me then DD1 will back her up and I'll go to prison, I've lost them all, I have nothing left"

which is plausible as his note says "I have nothing left, you win"

I just want answers...

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hesterton · 10/08/2017 23:29

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TestTubeTeen · 10/08/2017 23:56

Op, I am so sorry.

Honestly, he sounds... a lot of things, but amongst them, manipulative and abusuve. I am sorry if this is too brutal, but what he has done is the ultimate emotional abuse / aggression to you. Hurled what he seemed to plan to be lifelong guilt at you Sad.

When I was a kid and in trouble, and definitely guilty, sent to my room, I used to sit on my windowsill willing myself to throw myself out, thinking 'now you'll be sorry you sent me to my room'.

Your DH actually did it.

It sounds incredibly sad, from his messed up childhood onwards.

I am so sorry this burden has landed on you. It sounds as if you were in an impossible situation. It wasn't your fault. IT REALLY WASN'T YOUR FAULT.

Look after your girls, and yourself, and perhaps don't expect to 'cope '.

I really mean it, take care of yourself. It was very clear thinking to ask the coroner not to be explicit. You are being incredibly clear and articulate.

Seeing the counsellor is a good idea.

One day at a time, OP....

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 12/09/2017 22:22

OP suicide is death from mental illness . I truly believe that . He was clearly mentally tormented , abusive and very affected by his childhood

His family sound awful and probably best they are gone from your lives . Fuck them

And honestly , his behaviour sounded pretty awful too .

What he has done is the ultimate 'fuck you' -you don't have to let this ruin your life

Maybe you can have a peaceful and happier life without this threat of violence hanging over you

I sincerely hope he can rest in peace as he sounded very tormented

You also deserve a life of peace and it's now within your reach if you can get the help to understand that he was mentally ill and you are not and never were responsible for him Flowers

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