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[milkybarkid]

Hi, Im around 6 weeks preg and have had some bleeding and thought I was miscarrying. doc said cervix was closed so Id be okay, but just had scan and they cant see an embryo. They said there was possibly a pregnancy sac but couldnt see anything it so could be pseudosac. They also said I had free fluid present but didnt say what this means, any ideas is it good or bad to have this fluid? Im so screwed up cos they cant or wont say anymore and have just been advised to wait and see what happens, but I need to know

Milkybarkid - can't answer about the fluid - never heard of this before. But about the other findings on the scan - before six weeks they should be able to see a sac. From six weeks they should be able to see a fetal pole (the actual embryo). By seven/8 weeks they they should be able to see a heartbeat. The problem is that it is only once they can see a heartbeat that they can be sure the pg is going OK. If you are at all unsure of dates, say you were 4 or 5.5 weeks rather than 6 weeks, it could easily be that what they have seen is quite normal. The only way for the docs to tell is by scanning you again in a week or two, to see if they can see the fetal pole and/or a heartbeat to see if the pg is progressing. Did they take any blood from you to measure your HCG levels? Did you have an external scan. I thought I was 7 weeks when I had a scan, but was told they could only see a sac, so either my dates were wrong or I had a m/c. I then had an internal scan four days after that (had dodgy blood test results suggesting an ectopic) and that showed up sac, fetal pole and heartbeat (I had been about a week/ten days out with my dates), and everything progressed OK.

Best of luck to you; it's such a hellish waiting game having all this uncertainty. Hope someone can advise in more detail about the free fluid

I've just found out that free fluid can be sign of ectopic pregnancy, and I do have pain on one side but also in the centre and the pain is not that bad. I really dont know what to think. I feel I'm being punished for having my first baby adopted. It sjust horrid not knowing

poor you milkybar - please do not think you are being punished for having your first baby adopted. You did what you felt was the best choice for you and the baby at the time. All sorts of people have problems with pg/fertility - life is just unfair like that. What is the next step at the docs - are you being rescanned in ten days? Did you have an internal scan? Did they take bloods? An ectopic is pretty serious. If the pain gets worse I'ld at the very least phone NHS Direct, if not go to A & E. If they did suspect an ectopic I don't think that they would leave you hanging on like this. They suspected an ectopic after my dodgy blood test results, so I had to go in the next morning for an internal scan, and was told if I had any bad pains to go in straightaway. I know that it is an absolute pig of an experience just waiting and seeing what happens - you just don't realise how little they can do other than diagnose until it happens to you.
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milkybarkid - I'm sorry that you're going through this. I don't know much about the subject (of suspected miscarriages) but I do remember having repeated pregnancy tests 11 years ago due to bleeding whilst in early pregnancy. Ds was there and is now 10 years old. I hope it works out just the same for you.

I just wanted to say please don't feel bad about having your first baby adopted. I think it's an incredibly hard decision to make and I always believe that whoever puts a child up for adoption is making the best decision that they can at that time. Take care, tm xx

Hi,

Thanks for your reply, I have to wait for three weeks for another scan. They did an internal scan which showed an empty sac

Oh dear 3 weeks is a pretty nasty wait - I guess they have said three weeks so that they know that you have got to 8 weeks by the next scan so can at least give you a definitive answer as to whether the pg appears to be progressing OK. Did the hospital mention any suspicion of an ectopic pg to you? Did they take any bloods? I think you should try to phone up the hospital tomorrow to discuss the scan findings and likelihood of ectopic pg so that you understand the position better.

no blood tests cos they knew my blood group

No - I meant your HCG levels. Theoretically if your PG is going OK, your HCG levels should go up by 2/3, if not double, over a 48 hour period. If you are having a m/c your HCG levels would usually go down. If you are having an ectopic your HCG levels may go up but not by 2/3 within 48 hours (this happened to me and so they thought it was an ectopic but it wasn't). I definitely think you should phone up and ask them 1)if they think there's any possibility it could be an ectopic pg and 2)if so, why they aren't doing any blood tests. The answer may be that they don't think that blood tests are reliable enough for them to make a decision as to viability of your pg, and only a scan is reliable for that, so they prefer to leave it until next scan.

sorry to hear this milkbarkid. Please don't feel that you are being punished for the adoption - that's not the case at all.
I had some light bleeding last october when I was about 6 weeks pregnant and my gp examined me - told me my cervix was closed. I too had a scan to see what the problem was, and they didn't see a whole lot just like yours, and told me to come back in 2 weeks. I started bleeding much heavier within a day or two of the first scan and went on to miscarry. It could be that your dates are wrong, and you are earlier on than you thought?
I'm hoping for the best and that you have good news in another few weeks

hopefully, it could be too soon to see more than the sac if you are just uder 6 wks. Re the bleeding, I have bled throughout this pp, almost non stop in the first few months. I am now 20 wks and all is fine, the baby is doing well and the bleeding hasnt caused any problems at all (apart from stress and anxiety). So, keep your fingers crossed all will be absolutely fine.

I don't mean to come across as negative milkybarkid.....
there are lots of women here who have bled during early and mid pregnancy and everything has been fine. I hope you're one of them.