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When can we try again?

33 replies

leander · 08/01/2004 09:33

Sorry for bothering you again but I know you will be able to help me.I wasn't given a lot of information after my misscarriage last month and I assume we have to wait till at least till after my next period before trying again,but is that it or do we have to wait a certain ammount of time as well.Also any idea how long after a ms do you get your next period.Sorry if I seem a bit thick but as I say we were not given any info can anyone reccomend a book to answer any questions after ms.

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eyelash · 08/01/2004 18:16

LEANDER

Again - so sorry for what you have just gone through. My miscarriages happened alot earlier but I was told to just wait one cycle (i.e. until you have a period before trying, or if you were not up to trying so soon, to try when you were ready. the miscarriage association have excellent leaflets and you can access their website for further information.

I also found the Lesley Regan book really reassuring. I am happy to lone you my copy if you like and will be up your way in the next week or so. Let me know.

I found the buying and planting of a memory tree (which we planted in a nice pot as we knew we were moving) a great consolation. In the spring it looks fantastic and gives us the opportunity to think about our loss.

bunny2 · 08/01/2004 18:30

The Lesley Regan book is excellent, I still have a copy borrowed from Hewlettsdaughter. I have read it many times.

You could ask your gp about trying again. I was told I could start trying as soon as I was emotionally ready to. I know there are women here who have conceived immediately without having a period at all (one is apparently very fertile after a pregnancy even if it ended in miscarriage). Most women are told to wait anything from one to 3 cycles. If you look through some of the other threads in this topic you should find loads of advice. I have read every discussion in the Miscarriage/Bereavemnt heading. Look out for advice from Mears, she is a midwife and knows loads, she gives tons of advice on these threads.

Quackers · 09/01/2004 11:40

Hi, agree with what has been said. As long as you have stopped bleeding from m/c then physically you are supposed to be ok. I waited 3 months each time though as I had infections and irregular bleeding so felt my body wasn't ready so quickly, but if you feel emotionally ready - good luck to you, god bless xx

Brunhilda · 09/01/2004 16:50

I agree with all too. I conceived my darling daughter immediately after one mc and had no period in between at all. It was a very little mc though - pos test but then loads of blood and stuff all like a flash flood v quick. My other 2 mcs have been a bit nastier - have just stopped bleeding now from last one (bleeding all of Nov and Dec - not nice). I plan to try again after next bleed cos I want my womb to be really fresh. A midwife friend and the sonographer thought that wise although doc said I could try straightaway. It will be really nice to be trying again and to wonder whether I am pg!!Hope that helps and all my love to you. BXXXXX

fairydust · 12/01/2004 15:09

sorry to hear about your loss - my sil lost a child before xmas and was told to wat six months as it can take that long for your body to get back to normal.

best advice i can give it to perhaps speak to your gp.

Quackers · 12/01/2004 16:13

Brunhilda, sorry to hear you were bleeding for so long. I did bleed with both of my m/c for a long time too. It does sort in the end doesn't it. I felt as though my body was doing what it was supposed to though. I'm glad you are positive and hoping to try again very soon. I wish you all the very best of luck and hope your next pgcy is successful. Lots of love. xxxxx

Brunhilda · 13/01/2004 22:57

Quackers thanks. I feel strangely positive about all of this and I know I felt like this after my first 2 mcs before I knew I was carrying my daughter. Hope it is a good omen. Will also ask doc for tests since this has happened 3 times (although not in a row) and since I had early bleeding with my daughter. I also had pre-eclampsia with my daughter. That is beleived to be due to poor blood flow between mother and baby. I wonder if it is all linked. I will start a thread on this to see if others have had same.

Quackers · 14/01/2004 09:29

Are you saying you think you could be pg now?? Sorry if I have the wrong end of the stick there!
Have you asked about baby aspirin and possibly heparin too for this?

Brunhilda · 14/01/2004 21:06

No, not had sex since mc (sounds awful doesn't it? Me and dh are of one mind and although we are affectionate sex seems to be about rying for babies just now). Just feel very calm inside. Have doc appt to discuss tests next Wed. As soon as next bleed over will start trying again whilst at the same time having tests. Isn't it funny that aspirin is recommended for those threatened with preeclampsia as well as for those threatening mc?

Quackers · 16/01/2004 09:11

Oh I see! Apologies there! We were the same and I think if you asked all the m/c sufferers on here, they would say the same! I only wanted to do it when it was the right time. Nothing wrong with that, you;re human and want something so much. Being as positive as you are will really help you and I reall y wish you well trying for your much deserved baby!!
xxx

bunny2 · 16/01/2004 21:41

Brunhilda, I think the sort of blood disorders you are referring to are the same as the ones that both myself and Hana (another poster) are being tested for. Are you talking about antiphospholipid antibody syndrome (or something like lupus?). I have done lots of reading up, apparently vit E supplements are as effective or more effective than heparin anf aspirin to treat these blood disorders. I must find the details of the book I was reading on natural fertility.

bunny2 · 16/01/2004 21:44

Also, we have just started to think about trying again. M/c was October and my consultant has advised me to start on another course of clomid as soon as I get a period (still waiting though). I am so scared about trying again, in fact had a big sobbing fit tonight, what if I miscarry a third time? Doesnt bear thinking about.

sykes · 16/01/2004 21:51

So sorry, bunny, I had two miscarriages before my first dd and was petrified of miscarrying again. Had missed abortions rather than miscarriages and was and still am cross about the fact that I felt my gp didn't really help me very much after the first - took ayear to have a period, then h ad another miscarriage - no questions about ovulation etc, lack of knowledge on my part. Know that isn't our problem - don't think it is, but do really make sure you're happy with advice from your gp/consultant. I could post for ever on this if you want to talk - please e-mail me - don't want to take up your space - I mean talk in any way, but from what I didn't do might help.

bunny2 · 17/01/2004 15:33

Sykes, mine were missed abortions aswell. I am not particularly happy with my consultant but there is noone else local to me so I'd love to hear your experiences. Shall we keep in in the public domain? That way others might be helped by your experiences too. I can start a thread or, if you prefer to keep it private, I'll contact you. Thanks.

bunny2 · 17/01/2004 15:33

Sykes, mine were missed abortions aswell. I am not particularly happy with my consultant but there is noone else local to me so I'd love to hear your experiences. Shall we keep in in the public domain? That way others might be helped by your experiences too. I can start a thread or, if you prefer to keep it private, I'll contact you. Thanks.

Quackers · 17/01/2004 20:54

Bunny, your chances of miscarrying a 3rd time are very low. I know the shock of a second micarriage and like you just didn't expect another to happen. You know my story and how I thought I'd lost this one but didn't. Our mate Lesley says about 25% of women will have 1 miscarriage, 5% will have 2 in a row and 1% will have 3 in a row. The stats are lower again if you have had a live birth. Remember this always, as your chances of success are much greater than failure. I also took comfort that if there was 'another' I would get referred to the guru herself and that calmed me alittle knowing that I wouldn't just be overlooked as another miscarriage. Hope your AF comes anyway and you can start your Clomid. Good luck Honey bunch xxxx

Brunhilda · 18/01/2004 18:36

Hi folks. Don't get chance to look at Mumsnet every day cos of darling baby! Started period yesterday - whoopee. That means next w/e we start shagging again. Plus will ask doc for tests on Wed. Bunny2 - I feel very unknowledgeable about what the tests are for and what might be wrong with me. I just want the intervention of medical science. I did read Lesley R's book in an attempt to pick up tips. I know that any of many things might be wrong and I want tests to find out if anything is. I do not understand the difference between mc and missed abotyion. Is missed abortion when you don't bleed? I bled loads with all of mine and so was not surprised that something was wrong. I have had aat least 2 blighted ova. What a b*** all is. By the way, I am thrilled for you Quacks!!!! Please keep letting me know how you are.

Brunhilda · 18/01/2004 18:39

Bunny - thanks for the vit e tip. I did look for junior aspirin in the supermarket but did not find it. Which sort is recommended plus what dosage of vit e. I will try anything!!!!!!!!

bunny2 · 18/01/2004 21:28

Hi Quacks, thanks for your lovely message. I know I must keep things in persepctive but it aint going to be easy. Did you have your scan? Bunny

Brunhilda, the book which suggested vitamin E is "natural solutions to infertility, how to increase your chances of conceiving and preventing miscarriage" by Mailyn Glenville PhD. If you can get it, it si worth a read. I can always scan and email the key pages. Basically the author is a doctor who practices nutrition. She refers to a study which shows/suggests Vitamin E capsules of 400 iu taken daily can help with certain blood disorders that cause miscarriage. It is a highly recommended treatment for heart problems because it thins the blood. It might or might not be appropriate for you but I dont suppose it can do any harm (I have read alot on this and it can be dangerous to start on 400 ius straight away, it was recommended to start on 100 and build up over a period of 4 months.

A missed abortion/missed miscarriage is when the fetus dies but there is no bleeding. Both mine were like this and I found out during routine scans that there was no heartbeat. I think a blighted ovum is something to do with there only being a sac, no embryo, but I could be wrong.

Lastly you asked about tests, my consultant tested me for antiphospholipid syndrome (also known as Hughes syndrome or "sticky blood" ) It's an immune disorder and can result in the blood being too thick and clotting therefore it is unable to nourish the placenta properly. try this site .
Feel free to ask more, I dont know much but am learning all the time.

Quackers · 19/01/2004 08:59

Hiya you two! You're right about the missed miscarriage and blighted ovum Bunny. My first was a missed miscarriage. I got to 15 weeks but baby was about 8. The second was a blighted ovum. At 6 weeks there was a sac but no fetal pole. I haven't had my scan yet Bunny. Have my booking in tommorow and then after that apparantly another scan. I think Brunhilda the dose is 75mg??? Bunny do you know the recommended dose for sure?? Good luck for your appointmtnet tomorrow Bunny!

NorfolkTurkey · 19/01/2004 12:23

Wow Bunny - that website was really interesting. Thanks for providing the link and I certainly recommend others to read it!

Quackers - I hope everything goes ok for your booking in appointment tomorrow. I'm seeing my consultant tomorrow for a chat and I'll hopefully have a scan too. Take care

NorfolkTurkey · 19/01/2004 12:24

Bunny - good luck for tomorrow as well!

juicypips · 19/01/2004 14:44

Quackers and Bunny, good luck to both of you for tomorrowxxx

Quackers · 19/01/2004 15:15

Hiya again, thanks Juicy! Hi Norfolk, good luck tomorrow chuck. Had another panick today and rushed over to Doc. Heartbeat was there. God this is stressful!!!!

bunny2 · 19/01/2004 17:23

Quacks, that's fab news I'm so pleased for you. It must be so fraught though, is your gp being understanding about it?

NT and Quacks, good luck tomorrow. Hope it all goes well for you both.

Well, I wont be seeing my consultant tomorrow as the tests results havent all come back. So far nothing has shown up as a problem so I shall wait to see if the last results reveal anything. I am ttc anyway, cant hold on forever.

and yes, 75mg is the recommened dose for aspirin.