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My Huband Died Unexpectedly on 2 Dec 2011, Our Anniversary is Next week...

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Bugmq · 14/02/2012 22:00

......and today is Valentine's day. We as a couple never really gave creedence to this 'Hallmark" holiday, but how can you ignore the 'in-your-face' and superficial "LOVE" that abounds everywhere? I didnt get weepy until a female friend of mine at work (who's fiancee is abroad for work) and I went for a bite to eat. We were very conversational until I was asked about how my husband and I met. I enjoyed recounting those events, but I dissolved into tears shortly into the story. Its unrelated to Valentine's day, but my feellings are just so raw so that it really doesnt take much to set me off. I didnt sob, but the tears flowed,

Our anniversary is 25 Feb. That is when we celebrated our love for each other each and every year, despite the tumultuous marriage that we've had. It would have been 12 years for us. Those 12 years were not entirely happy. I sought counsel on divorce and we had many arguments, but I never ever imagined that we would be separated by death. I have always loved my husband and I always will. It was just difficult to live with one another.

We have a ten year old daughter who had a magnificent relationship with her dad. It is just too enormous for her to confront the reality of this death that she is in denial. My pain is mainly for my husband and my daughter. I just cant fathom the loss and neither can my daughter.

Mums net is a great source of information and comfort, but in this instance what im hoping for is to hear any advice on how to deal life from anyone who is or has experienced similar circumstances. My daughter and I are on waiting lists for bereavement counseling, however I need it badly and my daughter is beginning to process the enormity of my husbands death and Im not strong enough for us both to be able to come out of this horrific situation in a positive way.

Thanks Mums net for providing the forum for me to shed my emotions and the ask for help.

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Ja9 · 14/02/2012 22:02

So so sorry for your loss. Unimaginable pain. Praying for strength for you and your daughter.xxxx

VivaLeBeaver · 14/02/2012 22:04

No advice but just wanted o say how sorry I am and that I hope you and your dd get some counselling soon. X

RaPaPaPumPumBootyMum · 14/02/2012 22:17

So sorry for your loss Sad

I have heard that Cruse Bereavement Care can be quite supportive [I think they have a trained bereavement counsellors on their telephone line]. I wondered if this might be helpful until the face-to-face bereavement counselling begins?

Cruse Bereavement Care

I hope someone comes along who may have personal experience who can help you.

In the meantime I am thinking of you x

chipmonkey · 15/02/2012 00:48

I am so very sorry for your loss. I lost my baby daughter last October and have found Mumsnet to be a huge support. There are other ladies who have lost their dh or dp on MN so you won't be alone. Hopefully one of them will see this thread and be a shoulder for you.
I know, with my dd, it's little unexpected things that set me off, baby girls' clothes in shops, little girls' toys. If I know I'm going to see them, I'm OK, it's when they're suddenly in front of me that I get weepy. They might be horrid tacky things I'd never have bought her, but it's not having the choice that's awful. I imagine it's the same for you when you see the Valentine's paraphernalia, it's not that you're bought into it but that he's not there to spurn it with you!
No human being is perfect and all marriages have their ups and downs but that doesn't diminish your love for your dh in any way. And you'll always carry that love in your heart.

bradbourne · 15/02/2012 10:36

Really sorry to hear this...I wish I had some words of comfort for you. I'm bumping in the hope that someone will be able to offer some help and advice to you.

Have you tried the WAY foundation? (Widowed and Young).
www.wayfoundation.org.uk/about_us/
I haven't any personal experience of this myself, but I have heard of others who have found it very helpful.

hermionestranger · 15/02/2012 10:45

I couldn't read and run and I have no real advice for you, except that to tell you that really one day at a time is the only way to get through the first year. My DH lost his dad at 23 and that was hard enough so I can't imagine how your daughter is feeling.

Remember to talk, come here and vent and get it out. I hope you get your counselling soon.

Have a very un mn hug.

Hamstertattoo · 16/02/2012 21:39

Bugmq, I've only just seen your message but wanted to reply as our situations are so very similar. My husband also died last year - a few months before yours but still fairly recently.

Like you, I have a dd, a couple of years older than your dd, and again, like you, my marriage was not always easy, especially in the last few years. In fact I was consulting divorce solicitors when my dh died. I still loved him very much but for a range of reasons, living together had become impossible (although we did live together until the end).

All I can say to you is that you are still at such an early stage. It's only been just over two months, and yet you are working, are able to relate to colleagues, and you've already been through your first Christmas and Valentines without your husband. Those are huge achievements. Our anniversary also fell a few months after my dh died and my advice would be to just do what feels right. It falls on a Saturday so why don't you and dd think of something special to do together that day that will remind you of him?

With our dds, I think it is so difficult to know what to do and the main thing for me is to keep talking about him together. It seems to help if we can each be open about when we miss him, or share funny memories together. My dd also picked out a few photographs that were special to her and had them framed.

Finally, one of things my GP said to me after my dh died was that grieving can sometimes be more complex where there has been conflict in a relationship (which I guess applies to a lot of people). I suspect that may be true as there at some things I really struggle to come to terms with. I hope you find the counselling useful, it's something I may well do myself in future.

Thinking of you and your daughter.

Whatevertheweather · 16/02/2012 21:46

I'm so sorry for yours and your dd's loss Bugmq

Winstons Wish are a fabulous organisation for childhood bereavement. Give them a call if you feel able and talk to them about how best to support your dd. I spoke to them about how to help my dd1 when my dd2 died. They were very helpful.

For yourself I second the recommendation for Cruse.

I really hope you can get the support you both need. You will find tons here and I hope you have good friends and family who are looking after you both xx

Blondeshavemorefun · 18/02/2012 16:33

so sorry to read this - my dh also died last year but different circumstances and was suicide

contact cruse if you havnt, they will sort out counselling for you, tho may be a wait but get on the list asap

Blondeshavemorefun · 18/02/2012 16:35

meant to say the 1st anythings are hard, whether birthdays/christmas/wedding anni (got that next month) and 1st year anni ( 2mths time)

everyone tells me i am strong and how do i cope (as the wouldnt etc) but do you know what, i dont have a choice,i have to be or what else is there - life goes on xx

YellowDinosaur · 25/02/2012 09:23

Thinking of you and your dd today on your anniversary bugmq xxx

ohokthen · 01/03/2012 18:51

Hi Bugmq Smile This is so bloody long and my english is disgusting, I apologise for that Smile

I'll tell you my story. In November this year I will have been a widow for 6 years. I am 43 years old. And we have a son who is 12 years old.

My hubby came home from work on a sat afternoon. Our son who was nearly 6 at the time said hello to his dad, and went off to play in a neighbours house.

I remember being in a tiz that day, I had loads on. And wanted to get all my housework done. As hubby had been out since midnight on a run to Scotland. (A Knight of the road). And just wanted to spend the later part of the afternoon relaxing. When he came home, I still had floors to clean, tea to cook (curry) ready for the night. And a 12mth old lab to walk.

He came into the kitchen as I prepared tea, and bloody tryed it on, I brushed him off cause he was knackered. He had had a really tough week at work long working days. He got on the settee and dozed of. Got up to go to the bathroom. And literally that was it. Heart attack blah blah.

I did mouth to mouth under the instructions of 999. We had 2 young girls living next door at the time. Teacher Students. Next door came in and helped me as remember the ambulance coming and his family as I phoned them.

I remember the shame of him not coming round why I was trying resusitate him, and trying to protect his dignity. WShen the paramedics arrived I remember I kept laughing and alternately praying and then seeing a big dark empty void in front of me. Panicking over my son, in case he saw the ambulance, And swearing that he was going to be ok. All the way through and even in the Ambulance and later at Hospital. The dark void was there it followed me. I could feel it creeping over my head. But couldnt believe what was happening. I kept shouting at him to open his eyes and stop messing.

But of course he didnt. I dont think I could ever really describe how I felt. But all around me I had people telling me what to do, where to go. And all I could think about then was our lovely georgous happy son. Who adored and idolised his dad. Worshipped his every move. Watched his every move.

What the fuck was I going to tell him. How the fuck do you tell your child there dad is fucking dead. And how do you tear your childs whole life apart.

I did of course. And the silence that came over our house that night. It was silent and dark, empty and strange eerie. (sorry about spelling mistakes lol).

Later when we came back from hospital. I even took the bloody dog for a walk. Me, Our son and his eldest DS from his 1st marriage. I remember pointing at the stars, And explaining the Angels had come for his daddy. The nurse at the hospital, who had treated my hubby. Had somehow managed to punctuate my brain. And tell me she knew my hubby from school. She had been through the same thing and had told her daughter. Angels came for daddy, they needed him. So that was the story I decided to tell.

Obviously the next few days where a bloody blur, I remember my son just sitting at the top of the stairs, and just silently playing with cars. Or sitting on the rug silently playing with cars or silently hugging the dog.

I remember in the few days before the funeral, thinking we both needed new clothes for the funeral. And I needed my roots doing. I was determined that though my face would be a mess, the rest of me wouldnt lol.

And copious amounts of red wine (cant stand the bloody stuff now).

Oh and the people, visitors lots and cards, and being stopped in the street and people walking across the road to avoid me that really bloody hurt bastards.

I remember his sil and nephew (16) coming th our house the day before the funeral. And actually counting how many bloody cards we had. And how nan and grandad had loads more. I can and do laugh about that now. And putting Gawd damn string on the bloody wall to hang the fuckers Grin
I hate them bloody sympathy cards. What a waste of a poor tree. Dont get me wrong, I know people mean well and all that. Smile

On the day of the funeral, if it wasnt for my son. I would never have gone home. I was more that happy to stay in that there pub and drink.

And afterwards that is the worse time, the silence is so very bloody deafening. Your in this great big bloody tunnel. Your grief (that is a word that used to puzzle me). The problem is when you have children, you arent just dealing with your grief, but there own grief, and the grief you feel as a parent as well. Its like 3 seperate forms of it.

He has taken all that grief that he would / should of felt. And bundled it into a great big hulking labrador dog. The dog is still with us. And gawd bloody help us the day owt happens to the dog. I will be back on the red wine then lol
I dont believe my boy, has ever grieved his dad. he dont like talking about him and its a rare day, when he mentions his dad. I talk about him always have and always will. I think its important for us both more so for my boy, that his memory is kept alive. My son has had in Y1, counselling and anger management. Which was aided by his teacher at the time. A lady who I will always have the utmost respect for. She did help my broken boy. Cause he was broken, we both were. Then in Y5, he went away with school to the lakes, and had nightmares and I think he had flashbacks. He went very quiet again for awhile.

I spoke to Winstons Wish. Who told me it isnt uncommon for bereaved children to start the grieving process again every 7 years. As obviously as they grow older the more they understand things and question things. Which when you think about it its right. School arranged for us to go to berevement centre. Parents in 1 room, kids in another. I managed to get my son to agree to give it a try and just see what it was like. They play games and stuff.

2 Days before we went. My lovely Mil got to him, telling him he dont need it blah blah They think counselling is all namby pamby Hmm And he point blank refused to go. So all that there grief is still there. (Although on an aside note a friend went through exactly the same her daughter was 9 yrs old. 23yrs old now studying for a Masters Degree. And like my boy only very occasionally talks about her dad. Never really grieved).

Maybe us mums are supercool and have took it over for them Confused

Your grief come is stages, shock, disbelief, sadness, oh and the anger so bloody angry Angry blood boiling. You are angry with them for leaving you, your child, leaving you to deal with well everything. And the guilt, that you learn to live with. And the slow dawning realisation that life HAS bloody changed. You are responsible for everything. EVERYTHING.

And people ohhh the people and there bloody opinions of how you should be dealing with things, how you should be dealing with your child. And the well meaning. " I know how you are feeling, when tommy left me" or "when we divorced" EEEEERRRRRRRRR NO I dont bloody think so. You spilt up, I didnt have the luxury of such a choice. My child will never ever see there dad again, your kids will. Grin I can smile at some of these words today. Still get exasperated by people though. Especially when folk are moaning and whinging about trivial things. Private thoughts are get a bloody life.

This is LIFE CHANGING. Its something you HAVE to learn to live with. The pain does not go away. Put simply YOU DO LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT AND LIVE AGAIN. You have to for you and your daughter.

And 1st's well darling there will be lots and lots of them. 6 years on, and theres still some I havent done. But nowadays, with them 1st's comes a sad smile and oh sooooooo very very many happy memories. And yes we had a very tumultous marriage as well. he was a right bastard at times but I might have been a bit of a bitch as well Grin. And one thing I have never done is put him on a pedestal. He was my soulmate.

Oh and we have special things going on here, a big memory box, we let balloons go on special occasions, raise a glass to him ect.

ohokthen · 01/03/2012 18:53

Oh and am going to open a lovely bottle of white after all that typing Grin Wine

crazynell · 06/03/2012 16:19

ohokthen this is so sad - you sound like you are getting there - wherever that might be.
Bugmq i'm so sorry
I was widowed at 46 - our marriage wasn't good towards the end - it complicated the bereavement- all i can say is that it does get easier - it never goes away but gradually gradually the pain, loss,anger, hurt loneliness aloneness, etc become less intense

I wish you both and your family all the best xx

crazynell · 06/03/2012 16:23

i forgot to say - go for bereavement counselling and remember that sometimes just when you think you are starting to feel ok it creeps up on you again when you are least expecting it. i went for bereavement counselling twice - almost a few weeks after the death, then about 2 years later when it came crashing in on me.

DadInsteadofMum · 06/03/2012 19:48

Everything that ohok said. The pain doesn't go away (3.5 years for me) you just learn to live with it being a permanent part of your life.

I would also thoroughly recommend WAY 9www.wayfoundation.org.uk), having just got back from a weekend away with about 100 other widows and widowers. The power of being in a room where you are not abnormal, nobody crosses the road to avoid you (know that one ohok) and you can relax without fear of being judged is amazing.

Ellovera · 06/03/2012 19:59

This thread had me in tears im so sorry . Sending love xx

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