stubborn 5 year old ds who thinks he's right and can't be taught anything....

[Nointhemood]

thats it really he thinks he is right and will not accept anything different even if you try to correct any misconceptions that he has.Its having a real impact at home and on his schooling tbh. It is very frustrating and im getting very worried about him starting year 1.

Also he lacks concentration and will only do things he is interested in. He has no desire to read or write and do maths. He wants to play and create things and find out about the world but any keys seems unimportant to him.Its so hard trying to sit him down and get him to learn as he doesnt seem to see the point.

He is only five and this is exactly why in Belgium children don't get taught reading/writing/maths etc until age six - many five year olds are just not ready. It's good that he wants to play and create and is showing an interest in the world.

What do his teachers say?

They are concerned that he is not meeting certain targets and as a result he is recieving extra help at school but he does also have s and l delay.They also agree he is very stubborn and whether its a case of he won't rather then he can't.Although i do agree some children aren't ready especially boys-i don't seem to get that reassurance from his school that he will settle down and this can be normal.

You could be writing about my DS Nointhemood! He's just turned 6 and also struggles with being told anything - he always knows best. He doesn't have problems with S&L and his reading is very good but he won't do anything around writing or maths at all.

He was kept in the reception class for 2 yrs (is a split year group R/Y1) which has helped - he is now more ready to enter Y2 although his writing and maths are still behind.

Like belgo says, our boys are not suited to the education system as it is. They need longer to mature and to see the point in learning frustrating though it is!

I'm a little relieved not to be the only one with a naughty contrary obstinate 5-year-old. Mine is a little bit dyspraxic but very intelligent, articulate etc, but right now he is so stubborn and, well, naughty is the only word for it. he does deliberately annoying things like singing songs about poo/bums/willies, kicking chair legs or (the worst one of the lot) contrary requests ie he wants a drink, i bring him a drink, he doens't want it, I take it away, he wants it - this is all quite deliberate.

i would ignore it.
they're all like that. ds1 is 5 and will swear blind he is right even if you can prove otherwise

i think it's a developmental thing, learning to argue their side (even if wrong) and sticking up for what theyt're saying.
they know you're right really, and it isn't worth arguing over

with ds1 i tend to tell him how it is, and if he says no it's x,y,z I just say ok, it's alright if you want to think that.

does it really matter?

as for being contrary... if they ask for a drink bring the drink. if they say they don't want it "well, i'll leave it here and if you change your mind you know where it is"

TIY: Thanks for that, have tried it but DS then refines it to almost gaslighty levels - he asks for orange juice, when I bring orange he screams 'Noooo! I wanted APPLE juice.' If I fall for it and bring apple instead, he wants orange...
I know it's a phase but I seem to be spending 80% of the time telling him off at the moment to little effect.