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Family's Victorian Attitude to my Kids getting me down

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Treadmillmom · 26/04/2010 14:41

My family is Caribbean, my husband?s English.
We have 3 children DS1 6yrs, DS2 4yrs and DD1 18mths.
My family?s Victorian attitude to children is really getting me down.
Apart from my mother my brothers, nephews and nieces spend zero time with my children where as my husband?s family dotes on them.
I recently called a family meeting to discuss their lack of input into my children?s lives, silence fell. Their main excuse has always been distance, we live 30 miles apart, they?re all car owners (my in-laws are 46 miles away).
My nephew sited their behaviour. It?s not the first time my family has made comments about my children negatively.
My boys are typical 4 and 6 year olds, playful, energetic, rough and tumble, smart, imaginative, what else can I say I?m a mum in close contact with other mums and do not see my children act any better or worse than their peers. We?re always mixing with other families and I?m sure if my kids were so awful the invites would be nonexistent, surely?
They are described as having exquisite manners by school and my friends.
My niece is having an engagement party next month that we?ve all been invited to. I was really looking forward to it but not after a conversation I had with my mother a couple of days ago.
She asked what the boys would be wearing. I said nothing fancy as we all know boys just run around a dance floor doing skids on their knees anyway.
Her response was, ?...not if they were my kids...? Mom it?s a party. ?Yes she says with adults and Elders, what will they be thinking if you?re kids are all over the floor?? I say, ?They?ll think, ah there goes a 4 and 6 year old doing what boys do best on shinny dance floors?.
She then felt the need to tell me that my brother (father of the bride to be) was still unimpressed by DS1 pulling the petals off his wife?s hanging basket then denying it until pressured to tell the truth when he was 4!
Christ, child killers get a second chance but my 4 and 6 year old and carrying around a totally undeserved reputation, dished out ONLY by my family.
I recall my brother whose kids are now in their mid twenties doing naughty step, slipper on the bottom etc so surely they weren?t born perfect?
I do remember as a child behaving in a ?seen and not heard? manner when out visiting but surely if I can remember behaving like that then I was already at an age to know better.
I?m so not looking forward to this engagement party now, I just feel like my kids and my parenting is going to be under scrutiny all night.

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Thediaryofanobody · 26/04/2010 14:44

People have there own lives too lead, why should they 'dote' on your children due to sharing DNA. Did you really call a family meeting? didn't realise people actually did that outside of TV and films!

Octaviapink · 26/04/2010 15:20

It's lovely that your husband's family are delighted by your children - if your family aren't that interested then there's probably not much you can do about it. I'm sure your children won't be the only ones at the party, so perhaps if they're all running around together then everyone will see that they're normal boys!

Nemofish · 26/04/2010 16:58

Do you feel like a bit of an outsider in your family, treadmillmom, perhaps a bit different to them? Just wondering as I've known this happen before, the children of the black sheep of the family seem to be kept at arms length. I am a black sheep of a black sheep, iykwim!

Treadmillmom · 27/04/2010 13:39

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tortoiseonthehalfshell · 27/04/2010 13:45

I'm really struck by the 'family meeting' thing. You asked your family to come up with reasons for why they didn't see your sons more than they do? Why on earth would you do that?

And then they tell you, and your reaction is 'child killers get a second chance but my kids don't'.

What a ridiculous comparison. If your family had written off your sons altogether they wouldn't be invited to this family party, would they? And I agree with them, by the way, I would expect a 4 and 6 year old to be told that 'doing skids' all over the dance floor is totally inappropriate and they can let off steam outside if they need to.

I think you need to take on board what your family is saying, or you need to stop trying to force them to spend more time with your sons. You can't, in fact, have it both ways.

bruffin · 27/04/2010 13:52

Agree with tortoise.

choosyfloosy · 27/04/2010 14:07

I think you do need to take on board that your family find your children's behaviour difficult, given that they have said this to you, but I don't think necessarily you have to change what you do. It would be possible to change your children's behaviour at 4 and 6, but if you like them the way they are (and why shouldn't you?) then don't! However, you can't force your family to feel the same. they may come into their own when the boys are older.

If you were getting a lot of physical punishments, well clearly your family crack down hard on children's exuberant behaviour. It sounds as if you focus much more on ensuring positive good behaviour like please and thank you, but don't worry too much about boisterousness. Sounds fine to me but it CAN be overwheleming if your family were stricter themselves, or they've forgotten what it's like to have two lively children that age. I must say that my mum didn't have two boys, so the sheer physicality that can come out with two guys close in age is not something she remembers - how about your family?

wannaBe · 27/04/2010 14:10

why are there two threads on this?

paisleyleaf · 27/04/2010 14:15

You've got to dress them up a bit smart to do skids on the dance floor of a family wedding.

Treadmillmom · 27/04/2010 14:22

You all seem so shocked about this family meeting thing, let me elaborate.
We put our house on the market to physically move closer to our families.
It took 2 years to sell and once it did I had cold feet about leaving. In the time we have lived here the children have obviously built close attachments and friendships, as have I.
You all understand that it takes time to build relationships with people and I now have a trusted network of other moms and we can depend on each other for school emergency pickups and babysitting.
I felt that in 6 years of parenting six adult members of my family had not so much as taken my children to the park and I must be crazy to leave my network to be the new girl on the block without an interested family as back up.
So I went to them to explain why the change of heart re the move.
They apologised and on the whole have promised to make amends...
Re the children?s behaviour I swear they are not naughty, they love to play are totally animated and energetic and have many interests, they don?t stamp on bugs, catch fences on fire, pull girls hair, they wouldn?t recognise a swear word if it was said to them. They?re always invited to hang out and be play dates etc.
I can?t help but take it personally, when my brothers children were small I used to take them on picnics, sleep over?s, day trips to the beach etc and it?s just a bitter pill to swallow when it?s not reciprocated.

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decena · 27/04/2010 19:14

I feel for you, really do, but I think you need to come to terms with the fact that your family are simply not that interested in spending time with your kids, esp. when they are young and that is not unusual, particularly for men. I have no interest in other peoples kids, and don't expect others to have fun playing with mine. My sister/brother in law would never think to ask to take my kids out.
Behaviour wise, your kids are probably normal, no better or worse behaved then others but any boisterous behaviour can be trying for adults, and yes, they will have forgotten what young kids are like. I can hardly remember what my baby did 2 years ago!
Try not to take it personally, and just get on with your life and bringing your kids up the way you want.
Good luck.

tortoiseonthehalfshell · 28/04/2010 02:56

Did they encourage you to move on the basis that they would babysit?

My mother spends a lot of time with my daughter (her only grandchild) but I don't expect my brother to babysit for me at all.

Treadmillmom · 28/04/2010 21:32

tortoiseonthehalfshell, it's not even an issue of baby sitting, it's an issue of a presence, building a relationship, playing a part in their lives...

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wannaBe · 28/04/2010 21:48

had your family wanted you to move closer so that they could be closer to your children? Because tbh if not then you have had expectations based on your own feelings, which is understandable, but not reasonable.

You just can't expect other people to take an interest in your children, even if they are family. Because people have their own lives and priorities, and more often than not those don't include other peoples' children.

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