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5 yr old tantrums about leaving/ saying goodbye

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FatSeal · 21/03/2010 21:29

Now, dd has always been less than happy about saying goodbye to visitors she has had a nice time with, and refuses to look at them, talk to them or interact in anyway once she realises they're going. We eventually got her through this by the age of about 3, with her realising that she would see them again etc.

She mostly grew out of her toddlerish tantrums etc, and from 3 onwards, has mostly been pretty well-behaved, not many tantrums, polite and generally happy.

She's now 5 (Jan), started school last August and since then has become cheekier, grumpier and occasionally a complete horror. Apparently she's fine at school, but at home we've had shouting back, growling, stamping, door slamming, throwing things etc Starting school has unfortunately coincided with my falling pg, due in 3 weeks now, so I cannot tell which thing is winding her up. When you talk about the new baby with her, she seems genuinely delighted and all set to be the world's best big sister. She's helped out getting everything ready, plays in the cot and has had her room decorated specially too. My more kind-hearted friends explain her behaviour with the new-baby anxiety card, but I just feel she is being a little monster.

The thing I really need help with is that she has got really bad about leaving places and saying goodbye again.

She seems to have reverted to 2 year old behaviour, and when it's shoes on time, runs away and hides, has to be dragged out and often her shoes forcibly put on whilst lying on the floor screaming. She kicked DH in this state a few weeks ago trying to leave his Gran's house, and has done the same at her Oma (grandma's) house, where we often visit. She never used to be cheeky to other adults, but at a (luckily good) friend's house not long ago after a lovely playtime, screamed "No!" in her face when I suggested she should say "thank you for having me" etc to my friend.

Last Friday was the worst ever, as she was invited to a new schoolfriend's house to play, and we sat her down beforehand and calmly discussed the leaving behaviour with her, and pointed out to her how upsetting it was for everyone, how to be polite and have nice manners so that you can go back and play again etc, and she promised she understood and would be good. Cue me going to pick her up and it all starting- she kept on drawing when I asked her to put her shoes on, then she threw the pens down and ran up the stairs. I caught her pinafore and asked her to come back down, and when she wouldn't was forced to (slowly and carefully) drag her down for shoes on. She put them on then lay on their hall floor crying and screaming whilst I apologised and tried to explain to the other Mum, who I have hardly met, that if she's had a good time she doesn't want to leave. Face was beet red by now Then I half carried dd out the door to the car and was too angry to speak to her. When I'd calmed down I did the "I'm very disappointed" lecture, which produced the quivery lip and tears, but so what? She doesn't seem able to behave no matter how much you've talked it through and explained it in advance.

So, what to do? No more playdates? A reward chart? Because the bad behaviour occurs after the playing, I can't take her home and deprive her of it, she's already had her fun.

My current plan is to allow for the fact that the baby may be winding her up, only take her to play with friends I know won't be upset by her abysmal attitude, at least until the baby arrives, let the dust settle and then start taking issue with the behaviour more pro-actively.

Answers on a postcard please, this has been brewing for months and is getting miserable for all of us. Thanks in advance!

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Jamieandhismagictorch · 21/03/2010 21:37

Sounds like you have good ideas there.

My DS1 (who is 9) can sometimes still be reluctant to leave, rude to me, and run away when I go to pick him up from his friends.

What I've found helps is to tell him when I'll be coming to pick him up, and call the other mum before Ieave, so she can warn him I'm on my way, and maybe get him to put his shoes on.

Try not to worry too much - it is embarrassing, but plenty of DCs do it. A reward sound like a good idea. Maybe if she leaves without a fuss, you could give her a sticker, or a biscuit - whatever she finds rewarding

PiratePrincess · 21/03/2010 22:17

DS's friend came round to play. His mum arrived to collect him, he didn't want to leave and held on to our sofa

His mum sat there and tried to talk him into leaving. Took her 1/2 an hour.

Anyway. My DS is invited to his. When I go to collect him he does the same thing (seen it worked with his friend).

I asked him to put on his shoes. He wouldn't. I picked him up and carried him out to the car - no fussing. His friend's mum was !

Difficult if you're pg though.

FatSeal · 22/03/2010 11:44

PP, I have always been of your opinion- just pick them up and do it your way if they won't do something nicely.

I've always been irritated by friends who say "oh but he won't go in the buggy/ wear her coat/ let me put her tights on". Just put the thing on them and be done with it, no discussion. We've used that approach for dd all her life and as I say, after the usual stages became very well-behaved about most things once she realised that she would be doing as she was told, either the pleasant way or the hard way.

As you say- it was especially tricky as I'm hugely pg and couldn't lift her, so had to resort to seriously undignified dragging technique. Normal service will be resumed in a few weeks!

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smee · 22/03/2010 14:27

I don't think you should reason too much either. Do the sitting her down thing before you go somewhere again and tell her you know it's hard, but it's unacceptable and what the consequence will be if she doesn't do as told. Be matter of fact about it rather than telling off mode iyswim. Then when she's at wherever she is, say it's time to go. If she fails to come, warn her, then if still nothing, tell her you'll count to ten and then you're going. If you have to just pick her up and take her. Obviously give her huge amounts of praise if she responds and leaves well.

Jamieandhismagictorch · 22/03/2010 14:45

I find counting back from ten to one really helps, or from 5

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