Nappy and bathtime problems

[MJA75]

Hi all, I am new to Mumsnet and could really do with so hints/tips/advice on this.

Miss P turned 2 on Friday but for the past couple of weeks refuses to have her nappy changed and will not let me wipe or wash her bottom. I think it could be linked to an episode in the bath the other Sunday when, without notice she had a nb 2, saw if and completely freaked out, we reassured her that it was ok and she hadn't done anything wrong - not been able to get her in the bath since, even with all the new bath toys she chose.

During nappy change Miss P tenses and once the nappy is off she closes her legs together tight and screams if I try and go near her - it has become a two person job. Her dad, nan and nursery have the same problem.

We have all tried distracting, bribing, you name it we've tried it but she still wont let us do it.

We have even tried to get her on the potty as she knows when she is going to go but she screams at the mention of it.

As I sit typing this we both know that she is doing a nb 2 in her nappy but when I ask her she shouts NO back at me and will run off. She will also look on the floor behind her and say "no poo".

Today after a dirty nappy incident she said "poo naughty" -I've tried to reassure her that it's not naughty but due to her reaction now it hasn't meant anything,

Has anyone else out there expereinced this or have any advice of what I can/should do.

Thanks

Hi MJA welcome to Mumsnet.

Have you tried letting her see you use the loo? Perhaps if she saw you pooing, saw the poo in the loo, saw you wiping yourself, and then flushing it all away etc, she would be reassured?

Is there any possiblity that she might be in pain when she poos, or has had an episode of pain recently? Has she had any constipation, or swallowed something that might have scratched on the way out?

How about showers for the time being?

Or maybe not the flushing away...someimes chidlren can be a bit spooked by the flush.

Ds1, my eldest, didn't like the flush, and when we strated toilet training we used to wave bye-bye to the poo before leaving the toilet. I would come back and flush a few mintues later. It sounds daft, I know, but that doesn't really matter - they do grow out of it!

Thanks

In a morning she has free access to the bathroom whilst I'm getting ready so the poor child has seen me on the loo, wiping, in the shower, everything and I do explain what I am doing as I go along but it doesn't seem to make any difference.

Miss P doesn't seem to be constipated and if she has swallowed something I've not seen it after it's exist mission!

Tried the shower and that doesn't work either - I'm just concerned about getting her clean but she really wont let anyone near her.

I know it sounds strange but I've patted her over her clothes to check whether it's sensitive to the touch but she will let me so that's not the problem.

If you hadn't guessed she is my first so everything's new to me, and having my mum say you and your sisters didn't do that doesn't help.

Bumping in case someone else has any ideas.

With most behavioural crises you can say the Mums' Mantra: "Chill...this too will pass" but it's not so easy when it comes to something like this.

my son has been like this for a while, whenever i ask him if he's done poo, i get a big NO!
he does lay down for me to change him when i say, shall we change your bumbum , however he has started to fight me putting the clean nappy on.
we are leaving him bare bum in the house quite often, but hasn't yet got anything in the potty. - although he does sit on it.
am not sure why he refuses to tell me he's done a poo, or wether he is ready for potty yet? :S - also my fisrt op. thanx for this thread.

Is she OK for non-poo nappy changes?

Hi MJA. My DD is nearly 2 and every nappy change is a battle. Last night I saw she was doing a poo, so I asked if she had done one, she said NO and ran away. If I suggest changing a wet nappy before we go out, she also says no and will often have a tantrum. She also tells me to be gentle when changing her, but I can't see anything sore and I think I am being really careful.

Bath time can also be a challenge. There have been a couple of times when DD has refused baths for several days. I try to not make an issue out of it. A quick wipe over with a flannel will do. The last time we had this problem, she did not have a bath for nearly a week, but then really needed her hair washed (too much yogurt and jam in it). Eventually she decided a bath would be fun if she could have her tea set in the bath. So now I can't get her out of the bath because she is too busy pouring cups of tea!

Sorry I don't have any great solutions. My post is really just to let you know you are not alone.