is this normal 2.8 yr old behaviour? long

[ilovetochat]

dd can be good as gold, talks well, understands everything but is so naughty when she wants to be, particularly when tired.
tonight while playing with me she pood on the carpet and i ended up naughty stepping her as i was so angry i didnt know what to do.
she goes on and on and will not stop. she will ask a question over and over even though i answered it the first time, she will argue over everything, she will say what colour is my top, pink, what coour is my top, its pink, what colour is my top, its pink dd stop asking now, is it red, no its pink, its red, dd you know its pink now stop please, its red red red (bellowing rudely by now till i end up shouting at her to be quiet which seems to be what she wants me to do)
ive tried ignoring her and she can repeat for ever.
ive tried joking its blue and purple spots but nothing deters her.

also at dinner table she is a nightmare, keeps trying to get down, i warn her that if she gets down dinner goes in the bin (which it did tonight) then se starts poking me, then waving her fork at me, then scratching at the tabel/plate/chair with fork till i remove the fork, then she puts her feet on me which drives me mad, i remove her feet and she keeps on and on, its like she does things to get a response but why, why does she want to be annoying. i nearly tripped while carrying the plates out tonight as she suddenly stuck her feet out on my leg and i shouted at her "move",

i am turning into washer woman mom and need to change tactics quickly.

No advice, I'm afraid, but all sounding very familiar. My dd is exactly the same age. She puts her feet on me too, and it drives me mad too!

And sge does variations of the other things you mention. 'No mummy, it's NOT a banana. NO'

ad nauseam.

I think you have solved most of it with the phrase 'particularly when tired. True of my dd too, but it's still naughty behaviour which needs dealing with, unfortunately.

im beginning to think there is something wrong with me as her constant physical mauling of me makes me feel claustrophobic (sp).
but she is always on my toes, pulling my legs, squeezing between me and the sink, tugging my top/jeans, if i sit she is boincing on my feet, then rolling over my legs, her feet pushing me constantly, digging her elbows into me, jumping on my back, climbing up me like a monkey.
i am affectionate with her, i kiss and cuddle her and tickle her but i dont want to be pulled and dragged about.

my youngest dd is a similar age and does a lot of the above. I tend to use a combination of ignoring her and/or distracting her. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But hey, they are only little aren't they?!?!

Sadly, they do go through phases like this

Ignore. over and over and over. Don't get sucked into the arguments.

Oh, when she is mauling and really pushing it she gets a warning, then a count of 3, then the step. She actually rarely makes it past 2 and has only ever been on the step 2 or 3 times.

I have to say she is normally a lovely easy going toddler, but if she misses a couple of naps I definitly know about it.

Oh my Goodness, you are discribing my ds! He argues over everything! Today my dad said 'I love you Joe' and said 'NO YOU DON'T' and argued about it all the way home. Thing is at this age, it's up to the adult to stop the argument cos they just don't know how to stop. They just love getting a reaction. My ds will swear that night is day and day is night, just so argumentative. He's 2.6 now and likey your dd will ask questions over and over and over!

I try not to shout at my ds for anything really cos it just makes him cry and actually is not really dealing with the problem. I just tend to change the subject and distract hime which often doesn't work!

The meal time thing is also very familiar! We have given up sitting at the table and just sit on the sofa now, not ideal but I don' want to makeit a battle ground and at the end of the day, I don't always want to sit at the table so why should he? I would rather he ate then me keep losing my temper and throwing out food.

God the scratching the fork on the plate drives me mad too but if I gice any reaction to it, he does it all the more . I tend to put food in front of him and not comment on how much he's eaten or how well he's eaten. If he's hungry he will eat, if not then he won't.

Can't really advise you but I would say if my son is anything to go by then Yeah it's normal!

thank you all for the responses, i know she wants to push my buttons for reaction but i dont know why cos she gets all my attention.

hi meandjoe, we have compared notes before

i really try to ignore and not react but she wont stop.

tonight was only the 2nd time she has been on the naughtystep, she can be a good helpful fun child but she can be so rude.

zapostrophe, they do get a bit OCD don't they? We laugh about my youngest, she is very much a creature of habit to the point of obsession. Bless

Sounds perfectly normal to me, unfortunately, however I keep telling myself 'it won't last forever'

DS1 has recently turned 3 and thankfully seems to be getting a bit better in his behaviour

as for the asking questions I have found that what works for us is that I ask questions back after I have answered it once and this stops him quicker than answering the question repeatedly
e.g. 'where are we going?'
'we are going home'
'where are we going?'
'you tell me, where are we going?'

i will try that asking a question back.
had a good day today, i warned her that bad behaviour would mean she would miss her class this morn or her party this aft and she was good all day.
i got her chatting in the car about a book and it destracted her from asking can we go yet at every set of lights and are we there yet every second.
at dinner she started to misbehave but i reminded she had buttons after if she was good and she stopped.
again she was asleep for 7.20 so i think she is excessively tried at the moment.
she only dropped her daynaps at xmas and is struggling by late afternoon.
thanks for all the advice and telling me its normal.