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How normal are violent tantrums in 4 year olds?

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NoDoubt9901 · 07/03/2010 15:07

My DS is 4 next month and has violent tantrums. He is generally a lovely little boy who is easy to please and has a sunny disposition. However, if something triggers his tantrums he turns into a violent aggressive little boy with the strength of 10 men. He is normally fine at home, no tantrums or violence but it seems to be when we are out that he really kicks off. He does it to some degree at his nursery but is far worse with me.
We went to town this morning and he needed the toilet so I took him in. When he had finished I wiped his bum and then he started screaming at me. This lasted for about 10 minutes in the toilet whilst i was trying to calm him and then gave him his normal 3 warnings. However he is so involved in his rage that I may as well be speaking a different language. So I took him out with him kicking and screaming and wriggling. He threw his shoes off and then sank his teeth into my arm - my arm now looks I have been savaged by a vicious dog instead of by a small child. I stuggled with him to get him to sit somewhere quietly with me whilst I held him tightly whilst he calmed down. This does always work but it takes a good 20 minutes and it has to be somewhere quiet and as you can imagine, carrying a 40 lbs child thrashing around is not easy. During this time he scratched my neck up (now sporting red streaks down the right side of my neck and face too - argh).
Once he has calmed down he seems to realise what he has done isn't nice behaviour. He apologises to me and becomes very sorry for himself and quiet for the next few hours so it seems like he can understand his behaviour is wrong.
As I said he is fine at home, mostly fine at nursery so why is he like this when we are out? He enjoys going out so it's not that he doesn't want to be there. he gets excited when we are out and always has a nice time so there is no real reason (boredom etc...) for him to start.
How normal are violent tantrums? And if they aren't then who do I speak to and what could be the cause?

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lovechoc · 07/03/2010 15:10

Sorry you are going through this I know it's tough, I've got a nearly 3yo who has the wildest tantrums. I just ignore it most of the time but if he's v upset I hold him tightly in my arms until he calms right down. I say nothing, because talking only makes the situation worse. Not sure if any of this helps you out, but it's just another perspective that's all.

Hope things get easier for you soon.

NoDoubt9901 · 07/03/2010 15:12

Just knowing I am not the only one makes me feel better (sorry!) I, too, avoid talking to him if all possible incase it starts him off again. Perhaps I should just skip the warnings as they make no difference anyway. That might help the length and level of aggression of the tantrum!

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cory · 07/03/2010 16:26

Dd had them for years. I stopped trying to communicate with her when in tantrum mood, just did whatever was needed to keep life and property safe and waited it out.

She only bit me deeply the once - but that was not for lack of trying - more that I had perfected the technique of holding tantrumming child safely (my brother also used to have them, so I was used to it from a young age).

I found a useful way was to get behind her, wrap one leg around her legs to stop the kicking, hold her firmly by the wrists so as to be able to pull her teeth away from whichever part of my body she was trying to get at.

Dd has grow up completely normal and so has my brother, so I don't think we particularly needed to do anything other than wait.

LondonMum73 · 07/03/2010 17:17

I am so glad that it's not just me! My ds is 4 too (5 in May) and has the most awful episodes where he totally loses it - it can happen anywhere, but only with me ie. never at school. I've tried ignoring, shouting and restraining. It happened on a plane recently and he went crazy, hitting and kicking me plus kicking the seat infront - there was nothing I could do and I almost started crying (pain and frustration).
I feel close to smacking him very hard but obviously I know this is not the route to take but it's so difficult. I really thought I was the only one with this problem...

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