Do 8 year old girls have some kind of hormone surge or is too much Tracy Beaker influencing her?

[Tinker]

Having quite a hard time with mine. Lots of old-fashioned cheekiness. Now, I know the new baby (nearly 8 weeks old) will have some part to play in this but is there something else that she can't control? Every day is just filled with arguments and deliberate disagreeing with what I say. Simple attempts at conversation become rows. Help!

Right, not had a chance to reply properly.

Thank you, as ever, Scummy for your post. Always make me feel all warm inside. Am going to have to save them and show them to her when she's older. Have had 2 better days since posting actually. Am very consciously paying her more attention (even though I know this is what has been at the root of it all but sometimes it is just so hard to get it right when you're tired or stuck on the settee with a baby plugged in). Funnily enough, we do tell her stories of what we got up to when we were young. Will have to tell her about brother no 1 getting out of bed and going into the room of brother no 2 (both older than me) just to hit him for "breathing too loudly"

Reassured to know that this does all seem normal and .

Really did/do think they had some sort of hormone surge batters - am sure boys do at similar age. Her figure has started to change...

I suppose it's "good" that girls stay and fight, I think I should think that's a postive thing but wouldn't mind if daughter no 2 decides to fight quietly instead.

Am waffling now but wanted to write more as a thank you for teh great posts but have forgotten really what I was going to say. Anyway, thanks for now and I'll update if need more reassurance.

Oh thank god for this thread! My dd is 7.5 and so much of what has been written here describes her. We are due a baby in 2 weeks so I really look forward to her stepping the attitude up a gear or 2. I thought it was just me being useless, and Tracey Beaker has crossed our minds. So glad we are not alone, but so sorry you all suffering too

just posting from titls..not read thread (shame on me!) but my dd was always hormonal around my period from about 4!!!! Sounds daft but she was weepy and irretable!!!! Now 13 her periods are almost in line with mine!

cant believe this thread.i felt like i was going to explode with my eight year old, she driving me crazy with her attitude and she is so angry.i have also been thinkin about tracey beaker as she watches it but in lots of ways i think it is a good programe.i came on mums net for the first time in months to see if i am alone on this and it feels great to find out im not. somethings she saying are quite awful and leave me speechless. i am also at the end of second week of summer holidays so that maybe making it feel worse. went out today just me and her had lovely day .then you think yes she is normal then all of a sudden monster again. i also feel she wants to show off and pretend she on own on buses etc one min then next min she want to cling and cuddle in. it must be hormone thing

my ds1 (9 yeras) is being awful for at least 1 hour everyday i think mainly because of ds2 (15 months). Strangely just spenm a tortuous evening and was thinkling their should be support groups for parents with 9 year olds and one year olds

my daughter is an only child so its not new baby with her. there must be something in this though if so many mums are feeling like this

unless all girls ar awful and all mums are rubbish at dealing with tham?!!!
No definate hormones!!!

My 7 year old has been behaving like this recently but I was assured the hormones phase would be much worse! I was told to watch out for the under arm hair and then expect a really horrible year, but it seems as if my advisor didn't realise that at 7/8 little girls do throw their weight around. Mine just has a bolshi 4 year old to deal with.

can anyone else pinpoint it to their cycle?

batters
raising girls

this book is out soon (but steve biddulph recommended - so take of that what you will)

Tinks
In some case puberty is starting a year younger than it did 15 years ago .. so perhaps it is hormonal.

at what age does pubity start? surely it is different in every case?

can be as young as 7!

eeek

well as i said earlier my dd started having mood swings very early on which coinsided with my periods!! Glad i only have one girl!!!!

Some of the 10/11 year old girls (Year 6) at dd's school have already started their periods. According to unicorn's article (below) that means they would have begun puberty at 8

My dd aged 8.5 really believes she is a teenager some of the time too, but still sucks her thumb and cuddles teddy when tired!

Yes, 8 is the new 13

how old were you all?
I started periods in the summer hols between primary year 6 and secondry school!! in a caravan!!!lol

I was 11 years old when I started mine, but had started puberty before then. Scary thought. If it's any help though (probably not!) DS of nearly 8 is horrendous at the mo. Cheek, eye-rolling, shoulder shrugging, back chat and arguing with EVERYTHING I say. God, give me strength....

fraid to tell you it will last ages!!!
years!!!!!

Mandy - shap! Summer holidays before secondary school in a caravan.

snap even

bet your mum didnt try and buy you a belt and towels with loops!!!!

OH .... thank goodness for this post!!! I was so worried about my daughter that I consulted Google (like you do, lol) and this popped up. I honestly come into work every morning feeling like crap because of yet another discussion with my daughter (which rapidly turns into an argument or strop). I swear that she goes out of her way to try and start an argument with me each morning (but is good as gold for her dad before he leaves for work - how annoying!!). Her new thing being asking me a question, which I answer and then 1 minute later she will ask the same question and make out that I never answered her (but does it with such attitude!). When I say "you already asked me that and the answer is ....." she raises her eyebrows at me and then sometimes, ASKS again - arghhhhhh. If I pull her up on anything, she cries (fake tears I might add!!!) and goes into full on "apply guilt" mode). We also have the eye rolling, whatever, stomping up the stairs etc (of course - I never did this as a child - hahahaha). The saddest part is that since she has gone back to school, she goes in looking so sad that it breaks my heart. Even one of the other mums said this morning that she "didnt seem her usual self" on a school trip yesterday. The key point to this though is that she has also (what seems to be over night) grown armpit and pubic hair (only fine downy stuff at the moment but still ... 8!!! arghhh). Therefore I know that this behaviour change is part hormonal and that I am seriously screwed when she turns into a teenager if she is this strong willed already - hahahaha. Boys are so much easier to manage, hahahaha