MMR and PCV together? Is this right?

[BambinolovesBeccie]

Not sure where to post to get a quick response so here goes. My DS has his MMR today. I was expecting one injection, but I have just looked at the immunisation timetable and it says that a PCV injection is given at the same time. Is this usual, and more to the point, is it safe? Should I/can I have the PCV at a later date

As an aside, they wanted to give his swine flu jab at the same time too, and now knowing there could be a PCV involved, I seriously can't believe that they would inject a 13 month old with 3 different things at once. I said no to the SF jab (at same time as MMR), but still considering whether to have it at all - that's for another thread I think.

Many thanks.

Yes PCV with the MMR. DD2 had hers recently. Was fine after the MMR but had a sore leg for a few days with PCV.

My dds had the swine flu vaccination a couple of months back. One doctor told me to delay the MMR for 3 weeks following the SF jab, another told me that we could have both at same time so I think even the doctors aren't sure.

Aye, same here.

Swine flu is fine to give at the same time too.

So it is usual. Many thanks suiledonne.

I am undecided on SF. I say undecided, I had made my mind up to let DS have it (a month after MMR) as he goes to nursery but now the decision is right upon me, I'm not sure again. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Thanks again.

it's not just 3 things.

the mmr has 3 components, in my letter they want to give mmr, pcv, menc booster and hib.

so add swine flu and that is 7 different illneses in one.

we separate them all out, dd had all her infant jabs as separately as we could. It's a lot, when you consider reactions like sleepiness and headaches, even mild ones.

At 12 months they are offered Men c and Hib boosters.

At 13 months first MMR, and PCV booster.

You can have swine flu vaccine at the same time, or near to, any other vaccine.

You can give 3 or even 4 vaccines at the same time - the schedule now at 4 months includes 3 vaccines at the same time.

If you want to separate them out you can ask to do so; they would probably advise that you give the MMR first and then return in 4 weeks for the PCV booster.

Hi,
I feel really concerned over the MMR being given at the same time as the PCV and HIB booster, I can't find any published research in to the safety or any rational in to why this is not best for the child, only that it has been decided (by who knows??) that it is safe. Am I being over causous here? I was wondering what other Mums thought about it and whether it is ok for me to ask for the MMR to be given later, although I know at my surgery they are telling people this isn't ok as one of my friends asked already.

suiledonne LIVE VACCINATIONS MUST BE GIVEN AT THE SAME TIME (DIFFERENT SITES) OR 4 WEEKS LATER. If you had the MMR then 2 weeks later had the swine flu jab the MMR would be less effective.

I should add that some brands of swine flu vac are live - AstraZeneca for example. You would need to see which they are using.

Single swine flu vaccine (Pandemrix) isn't live. It can be given at any time around other inactivated (non-live) vaccines.

Astrazeneca don't make any vaccines as far as I'm aware, and none of the flu vaccines currently used in the UK are live.

007superduper the JCVI, the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, are the medical body that advise the DoH on the vaccination schedules in the UK.

Their current recommendation is that it is quite safe to give MMR, PCV and Hib/Men C booster all together. From May 2011 this will be the routine schedule for imms and can be offered now (up until now the Hib/Men C was given at 12 months and the MMR and PCV at 13 months.) They are all going to be offered together between 12 and 13 months. (This thread is an old one and was originally started in February 2010, the schedule has changed since then).

The logic is that MMR should be given soon-ish after the first birthday as maternal antibodies have markedly declined by the age of about one. As Hib/Men C and PCV are boosters from the baby imms then if you did want to separate the vaccines it would be best to do the MMR first and then the others after.

I got caught on the hop with this last week. I thought I was going for just the PCV/Hib booster at 12 months and they tried to do the MMR as well.

I said no, and thank God I did, because DD reacted incredibly badly and then came down with a tummy bug a couple of days later.

MMR will be given later.

It's just too much at once. I know the logic - too many appointments are a hassle for everyone, but poor kids!

yes if vaccinations not done together have to wait 4 weeks for next one so DD had MMR at 13 months but had missed 12 months due to excessive snow etc around december time so she then had them at 14 months

DS has just had his hib/menc jab at 13 months because it was the intention he would be given all 3 at once.
The HV said said they have decided to do this to try and increase immunisation rates, I was surprised, are there really people who don't get immunisations because it's too much hassle to make 2 separate visits?
I am quite happy to make as many visits as needed despite inconvenience if that's what is best so we just had the one.