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Why do Babies,Toddlers,Children behave so differently and so naughty to years ago....

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Louise1970 · 10/07/2005 11:50

My mum asked me this this yesterday. What are all your thoughts....

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happymerryberries · 11/07/2005 17:36

I am involved in a nurture group initiative for secondary school to try to help these kids devlop emotionally and fill the gaps left by their families. There ism, of course, no funding for this

I just wish that people would realise that kids just can't learn unless they are reasonably emotionally secure and happy! It doesn't matter if they never understand photosynthesis but it does matter if they are emotional f**ups!

Louise1970 · 11/07/2005 18:47

Hercules. We were in so much debt in the other house, i could hardly sleep at night. More money going ou than coming in. We have moved 40 miles away. My partner and i both have cars but we made sure the new house would be affordable to us, but with building potential. In the sale of the previous house we paid every single credit card, loan, etc off. We moved into our new house with a clean slate. We then found out the new house had problems. So we are now 10k in dedt again. But we are in the process of converting the garage and extending it into a studio room/flat to rent. Then when debts are paid off we will reclaim that part of the house (hopefully in 2 years) I know most people do not want to let part of there house. But think about it they will never use your garden or any part of your house. I do know alot of people who say that they could not do it. It depends what is more important. Your kids or you being to proud to have a lodger. We have even decided that if it does work out, we may carry on having lodgers to just help with day to day costs. Mybe we could go on holiday. remeber you are aiming to have ddm out of your account for just mortgae, food, gas, elec, council tax and that is it. We buy all new toys from tesco or asda. Clothes for the kids too. Sometimes i do too. Wow i think maybe i have revealed too much. My partber would kill me...

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Lizita · 11/07/2005 19:40

Wow too much to respond to here...
Louise I really feel for you. I panicked when it became apparent my dd just has a very tiny appetite. It was easy for me to solve though, I just had to stop worrying and chill out and not bug her about it, just let her eat however much she wanted to eat without commenting, learn what she particularly liked, etc, and her appetite has grown over the months... (She's 23 months old). So i can't IMAGINE how I'd've coped if she was like your ds...

Hercules - I am a single mum so I HAVE to respond to your comment about disruptive kids coming from homes where dad isn't present. It implies that mum is incapable of disciplining effectively. I give my dd a lot of love but also a lot of consistent discipline etc and I don't think she has suffered from not having a father. (He lives on the other side of the world). Also, a lot of two parent families surely consist of "ineffective" fathers? Perhaps what you witness re broken homes is down to the rowing that goes on between the parents and the inconsistency the children experience between the parents, iykwim. but this doesn't mean it's less likely to happen in two parent families. In fact now i come to think of it it is probably easier to discipline effectively if it is just you bringing up your child.... liked your point edam re ww1, ww2 etc

My initial thought about why kids are more disruptive, rude etc these days (i too am sceptical that they are) was fear. Not respect lynnej. my mum only ever smacked us once and we were so shocked at the time but it didn't work and we certainly didn't respect her for it, Teaching kids to respect their adults is a dangerous thing i think, when so many adults are unworthy of respect.

Louise - yes stop going to your mum for advice! I get on well with my mum and she is very supportive and on the whole non-judgmental but it did my head in when we clashed about something. There are so many emotional ties/issues etc that mum is the wrong person to go to for advice about mothering!!

happymerryberries · 11/07/2005 20:10

sorry, but i know that i amworty of quite a lot of resect, thanks.. and no-one deserves the crap that i have to deal with each day. i have found your comments rather insulting to my personal and professional integrity. parents teaching childennot to respct their teachers just adds to my load of work.

Lizita · 11/07/2005 20:17

oops sorry hmb, when i read your reply i thought eh? then reread mine and can see what it looks like... i didn't mean in the way it sounds. Firstly, i wasn't talking about teachers. Of course kids should learn respect, for everyone, respect is an important value, that paragraph was supposed to be about really strict corporate discipline from years ago, I was thinking of the "kids should be seen and not heard" and when the belt or cane was used. I was trying to say it doesn't necessarily instil respect in youngsters, rather fear & resentment, besides i don't think it's respectful towards the kids themselves. So i meant, if an adult is rude, swearing, fighting etc etc, teaching or expecting kids to respect them isn't wise.... Does that makes sense now?

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