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so how DO you get your LO to sit still and eat?

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tiredandexasperated · 23/01/2010 13:44

Our 17mo was a great eater until about 3 weeks ago when we stopped using his high chair. If we just use the harness on the chair (trip trap so elevated and has footrest) he slips forwards off the seat and dangles there, asking vociferously for help. Again. And again...

I would wait for him to outgrow this, only he won't take more than a sip of cow's milk, and BF an active toddler is really hard work.

We've tried snacking a la Sears, but he's much too busy for that.

Anyone have any ideas, before we go back to the babyset?

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Octaviapink · 23/01/2010 18:40

I'm pretty liberal about most things but I agree with the strappers-in. There are things that are non-negotiable.
Tiredandexasperated you asked 'how would you like being strapped down'. For a start it's in not down, and the answer is we all have to be strapped in (cars, aeroplanes etc) sometimes like it or not. There are rules for our safety. He's pushing to see what he can get away with - you don't negotiate with toddlers! Get on the track of persuading them to do things and you end up making a rod for your own back. You'll have to go through this all the boundary-setting again when he's a teenager so you may as well start now!

MrsGravy · 23/01/2010 18:52

I'm not sure how or why this has descended into a debate on strapping kids in/down or whatever. He IS strapped into his Trip Trap chair isn't he?? But he's dangling off the straps? TBH, my general rule since they were small has always been 'sit and eat nicely or dinner is over'. I don't yell or shout but in the situ the OP is describing I'd right him in his chair a couple of times then say 'if you slide off again dinner is over'. And then dinner would be over. He's still little so I appreciate he's not being naughty but if he were hungry he'd be more interested in eating than sliding!

I'd also agree with those who say a small table and chair would be more appropriate for snacks - I'm not surprised you're tired and exasperated if you're dealing with this 5+ times a day!!!

MrsGravy · 23/01/2010 19:58

Sorry had to go but hadn't quite finished...I also don't understand the link between him not wanting to be in the chair and refusing to brush his teeth??? Do you put him in the chair to brush his teeth or something? Or are you saying he's not letting you brush his teeth as some kind of protest??

ArthurPewty · 23/01/2010 20:05

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Octaviapink · 24/01/2010 06:19

LeonieDelt, have you tried the Bickipegs finger-toothbrush? Sometimes much easier to get a finger in their mouths than a toothbrush!
www.bickiepegs.co.uk/acatalog/Baby_Dental_Hygeine_Products.html

ArthurPewty · 24/01/2010 08:17

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DomesticGoddessInTraining · 24/01/2010 08:37

OP, my ds went right off both his high chair and booster seat at 16 months. After weeks of very stressful mealtimes we tried him sitting at his own little table and chair next to us and that's working quite well. He'll usually feed sit/stand and feed himself quite happily for a while before coming to sit on my lap.

It may be a coincidence, but this all happened round the same time he moved out of the baby room and into the toddler room at nursery where they eat at small table and chairs instead of highchairs.

purepurple · 24/01/2010 08:57

OP, does it really take 2 of you to get a 17 month old into a highchair?

You are the adult. You need to tell him to do what you want him to do.

monkeyfacegrace · 24/01/2010 09:15

My 15 month old is sat next to me now in his Antilop. He hates it initallaly, but tough shit, that is his table and where he eats. My 3 year old sits at the table, and does not leave her chair till I say she can. Its called parenting, being in charge, and looking after their safety. Im conused about taking a toy to the table? How does that help anything, other that showing him that mummy will do anything to bribe him into sitting down? Very odd idea imvho.

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FrannyandZooey · 24/01/2010 09:40

we have 18 month old, it depends what mood i am in what i do
there is not usually much point in strapping in forcibly, even if i feel like it, as he will then just scream and won't settle down or eat anything anyway

if he doesn't want to get into the highchair, sometimes i delay the meal until later, sometimes i use a distraction and tempt him in, sometimes i go and sit at the table myself and eat with his brother, which often makes him want to come and eat

i don't think there's anythign wrong with using a toy etc as a distraction to get them into the high chair at this age
it's already a pay off between what they want to do (roam freely causing havoc) and what you want them to do (sit nicely causing no mess), so why shouldn't they have an inducement? there seems to be a culture on MN sometimes that if you make any concessions towards what your children want then you are heading for anarchy and your children are spoilt and nasty
our latest disctraction (now the advent calendar is gone) is a thing called mr grasshead
it is a face with grass seeds in the top, you water it and it grows grass hair ds2 loves it and waters and strokes it but we only get mr G out at meal times

the other thing you could do with a really young toddler like this is ditch the high chair for a while and just let them snack on things while playing
many prefer to sit at a little chair and table and the novelty will often keep them sitting longer
i don't know if you read dr sears (very gentle, child focused parenting advice) but he advises the snack tray, filled with nutritious foods, just leave it out and let them get on with it
oh sorry (rereading) you have tried that
well if he really is hungry, he will eat - if not hungry, it doesn't matter that he won't sit down
BF an active toddler is ok - just get your head round it that it's going to be this way for a while - eat a lot yourself - and try to enjoy the sitting down parts (you don't get so many of those as your child gets older)

i know you said that sitting down for a family meal was one of your big goals - well of course - but you need to be thinking long term here
you want to all be sitting down happily together when LO is 3 or 4, hopefully, but it really doesn't matter if that isn't happening every day when he is 1

you said you were working on getting him to choose to come and sit down - yes that's the right idea - but he won't choose that every day or even at all, for some time yet! you can't say you are letting him choose, and then decide that he has to choose it NOW
really do think long instead of short term and do whatever feels right at each meal time, for now
being flexible and keeping a sense of humour are your two KEY parenting skills at this age IMO
and distraction, playing and humour are your key skills for quite a while, to get children to do the things you need them to do!

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pigletmania · 24/01/2010 23:12

I have a fantastic booster chair by early years which attatches to the chair with a 3 point harness. It is priceless as my 2.10 year old will not sit still at the table. I have used for about 1.5 years and its brilliant. It allows her to sit at the table at the same hight as we would whilst also being strapped in thus preventing lo from going out and running away.

AitchTwoOhOneOh · 24/01/2010 23:25

i don't understand the connection between the toothbrushing and the chair. do you brush his teeth in the chair? how were these negotiations conducted?

FrannyandZooey · 25/01/2010 09:07

i think maybe she's saying she has to pin him down to brush his teeth, so she doesn't feel comfortable doing it again to get him in the chair?

no, i think maybe it is that she brushes his teeth in the chair, and he wasn't going for it

hello aitch! how are your lovelies

BobbyTheBird · 25/01/2010 09:14

FFS whats wrong with actually parenting a child and teaching them that they need to do what mummy or daddy tell them too.

You are not doing him any favours!

AitchTwoOhOneOh · 25/01/2010 09:15

they are utterly gorgeous, a total laugh riot. dd1 stayed at my mum's the other night (hooray!) and the pair of them were wild with excitement when they were re-united.

i would give up the toothbrushing in the chair in that case, re-instate the baby set but possibly not the reins (we have an antilop, i don't use the strap, generally when dd2 stands up it indicates she's done or that i've forgotten to put more food on her tray).

it may also be that his teeth are coming in at the sides, dd2's molars put her off eating altogether for a month and she went strictly milk for that time.

AitchTwoOhOneOh · 25/01/2010 09:59

i did ask how yours are, didn't i franny? i wouldn't be so rude as to blether about mine without asking about yours, would i? oops.

nomie44 · 25/01/2010 13:06

Hi there - have you got room for a child seat and table? My little boy hated being strapped in and was a wriggler and a climber, so we got rid of the highchair when he was about 14 months. We got a little chair and table from Ikea (about 11 quid) and he happily sat at that (so no safety issues). Also got him ready for sitting at a table at nursery. Not saying he's perfect even now at nearly 4, but the novelty might work for a while and get him back into the habit. Good luck!

MissWooWoo · 25/01/2010 14:26

I don't, she wriggles, squirms, gets up, gets down, turns around in her (adult) chair.

I tell her to sit down/round every now and again but generally don't sweat it unless she stands up on the chair which isn't allowed because it's dangerous. She's 2.8.

My niece used to do the same at that age. She grew out of it. I expect my dd will do the same.

MissWooWoo · 25/01/2010 14:28

oh and meant to say she has always hated being "strapped" in, so when she started to try climbing out of her high chair we just swapped her to grown up chair (about 18 months)

tiredandexasperated · 27/01/2010 13:16

Thanks all, especially those with constructive advice.

The booster seat is working like a charm, from the word go. (not given up on the ergo chair; just having a break i think)

BF much more manageable and I'm much less tired. And not exasperated at all

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