2 year old and discipline

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Is just two (25 months) too young for some kind of naughty step? I count to three, and my dd just looks at me and carries on doing whatever it is (!) What a monkey - what should I do? I'm not sure she'd understand the sitting down thing on a step.

Any tips?

It was for DS.
2 is tough. Does she understand 1 2 3? What do you do if you reach 3?

I think I went for distraction mainly "Oh! wow! Did you just walk up to th ecar all byu yourself, that's great!!! (while strapping in) or maybe some bribery/threats - " if you don't let me do your car seat up we can't go shopping and buy you more juice"

sorry for typos. Gin.

To get the 'counting to 3' to work, you need to have a consequence at the end of it that they will understand and carry it through every single time.

I do the 'count to 3' with my DS who is 4 and I have done it since he was about 2.

For example, if he throws a toy in anger 'If you do not pick up that yoy by the time I count to 3, it will be put on the microwave' If he doesn't pick it up, then it goes on the microwave for 30 minutes.

I still use this technique and because I have been consistent with it, I only ever have to say '1,2' and he does as he is told without the consequence.

I also started the 'time out' mat at this age, but generally for the more serious stuff e.g. if he hit me. I explained what the 'time out mat' was for and again used it consistently.

I generally find that constantly watching for the good stuff and praising him for it means that both 1,2,3 and time out didn't and don't have to be used that often.

Thanks for your responses! It was the 'what do I do if I get to three?' really that I wanted advice on. Some kind of time out, but not for every little thing, I suppose, or else we'll be there all day!

Still giving this some thought...

A friend of mine does the naughty step for his 2 year old. I'm not completely convinced they'd fully understand it at this age.
I also take things away. If he throws a toy on the floor, I tell him not to throw, to put it down nicely, and then I show him how to put it down nicely by holding his arm and putting object back on the floor, I then tell him if he does it again I'll take it away. My ds is a bit younger though, 21 months.
The reason I tell him first and give him another chance is because at the moment, I feel like he needs to be reminded of what I think is an appropriate way to behave, if he doesn't know, he can't do it. The same as when we go into shops, if he takes something off the shelf, I tell him to put it back and we don't move on until it's done.

this is a tough one,my daughter is 20 months and on the whole is good, but like all kids her ages gets naughty sometimes.
i have used the naughty spot couple of times (only wen smack or something to that degree accures) at the time i wasnt sure she would understand and she prob didnt but it worked.
counting to 3 doesnt work as she just says 4-5-7-10! haha
the thing is with her is she is fully aware of wot she can and cnt do as she has this look wen shes in a naughty mood, almost wanting to be told off!
the thing iam finding the hardest is her shouting 'mine mine' wen another child wants a toy. i no children go thro this stage but it drives me crazy as it makes her sound like a brat, iam trying to get her to say 'my turn pls' or 'evies ta' etc anything other than MINE aaarrrghhh

Yes! Lots of things driving me crazy at the moment. My dd definitely gets a look (e.g. when I have asked her not to bang her cup on the table, she will look at me then do a slightly softer bang to see what happens.

It's tricky when she does something like running around the room and refusing to come to me when I need to put her shoes on - difficult when you're in a rush too.

4-5-7-10 made me laugh!

My DS is 2.2 and occasionally does naughty step, but doesnt really 'get' it and we just end up with hysterics. I find the counting to 3 with a consequence does work better, because he does understand that when mummy gets to 3 she does what she says she's going to, although sometimes he treats it as a game and is shocked when I do whatever it is.

Great, thanks. So some kind of suitable consequence after three - maybe leave the step for now.

my 2 1/2 year old goes to bed at 7.30pm and as always slept well and used to get up at 7.00am then it changed to 6 am and then we would start the day but now and for some time it has been 5 15 to 5.30 and wants to go downstairs and will not go back to bed this is really to early and then he falls asleep at 11am any advice

wrong thread? But, I have to say, my daughter's waking time has crept earlier, and she is doing exactly the same as you describe with your ds. Any time when cbeebies hasn't started is CLEARLY too early! I'll be interested to see what the advice is here... (though it is a different thread, I think...)

Read this thread through - you might find some ideas there?

thank you, flamingobingo!

My DD is 26 months and I don't think she really understands punishment or 1-2-3, but she does seem to get rules. What seems to work with her is talkings-to, lame as that sounds. As in really going on and on about the naughty behaviour in question, including at times when she's not actually doing it (but can remember having done it). Not in such a way as to make her feel like she's a naughty girl, but just drumming it into her as something she has to learn.

completely agree with whats been posted. Make the consequence clear before you start the counting and ALWAYS carry out the threat. And make it something you can actually do! dd normally complies at 1 but the time I threatened to chop off her feet for kicking she carried on to see how I was actually going to detatch them and kept asking for them to be chopped off for several days afterwards....

I tried the naughty step when she was about 2 and a half and she started role playing being naughty and putting herself on the step. it actually made her behavour worse.

That's quite a warning, somethingsticky! I'll take your advice...

I've been having some success in the last couple of days with saying I'm going to do something (eg mummy will take your cup away if you keep pouring milk out onto the floor), doing it and then asking DS why I've done it (eg why did mummy take your cup away) which serves to: 1. cut the resulting tantrum short as he has to stop shouting to listen, think and answer and 2. make sure he understands what's going on rather than just getting cross about a percived injustice, iyswim. And usually he will behave fine after (eg would you like your milk back? [DS 'yes']what do you need to do [DS 'drink it']) he's 22 months and it only works well as he's got a good vocabulary though. and often he's in too naughty a mood to want to be good!

perceived, even. vocab not from me, clearly

Thanks, notgettingmuchdone - I'll give that a go today