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DD and the spectacularly mixed up pronouns

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ShowOfHandsNoLongerKissesKunes · 02/05/2009 13:31

When dd is busy and trying to say things in a rush she mixes up her pronouns. For example she will say 'mummy read the story to you' or 'can I sit on my knee'. I assumed and still do that this is just a general confusion, doesn't matter and at other times when she's less busy she gets it right or corrects herself of her own accord.

Alpha Mummy at toddler group who specialises in Nasal Talking and Inappropriate Comments Coupled With Smugness, informs me that dd has a problem. As far as I know she is not qualified to diagnose speech problems.

Now, I don't believe her but just wondered if it's a common confusion, to mix up pronouns.

I am almost tempted to start mixing them up in Uber Mummy's earshot.

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ShowOfHandsNoLongerKissesKunes · 02/05/2009 17:11

I'm not concerned at all listening to her as I type. She's talking to her doll at the moment and sorting out piles of bricks. She's saying 'those ones' 'this one' 'these ones' for different groups and single blocks and getting the pronoun right every time. It's fascinating. I think the fact that she confuses 'me' and 'you' occasionally is of little note.

Y'see you can't tell Alpha Mummy she's wrong because her children were reciting Gregorian chants in the womb and were conjugating on their way out of her.

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ShowOfHandsNoLongerKissesKunes · 02/05/2009 17:14

Oh now gender clairey, that's really interesting because they don't get it for a long time and then for years after they learn to differentiate they truly believe it's changeable. A 4yr old girl can grow up to be a man for example (excluding any surgical adventures later in life) Gender's really interesting.

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vonsudenfed · 02/05/2009 17:19

DD was just the same for ages, and on the few occasions I tried to explain, I just ended up making it much, much worse! And then suddenly, a couple of weeks ago (she's 2.6) she 'got' grammar, altogether, and suddenly started using whole sentences (yes, DD would like a drink mummy - it;'s like living with someone trying to pass their GCSE oral). So, totally normal, to reiterate what everyone else has said.

Alpha Mummy on the other hand... Can we have a regular thread of her adventures as she sounds like a complete loon.

MarthaFarquhar · 02/05/2009 17:24

ooh yes, vonsudenfed, I think I would be a keen subscriber to more bonkers Tales of Alpha Mummy.

ShowOfHandsNoLongerKissesKunes · 02/05/2009 17:25

I could write a book about her and her idiosyncrasies. And by idiosyncrasies I mean nuttiness.

For example, there was the common toddler group problem of not enough parents staying to help tidy up (Alpha Mummy loves the tidying up bit, she has a clipboard she whips out). So, Alpha Mummy cleverly tries to implement tidying up before toddler group is finished. About half an hour before. So, essentially suggesting we spend the last half an hour in an empty church hall with no toys, no chairs and a gaggle of bored toddlers. She absolutely could not see the problem with this. It was so clearly detailed on her clipboard, it had to work.

Oh and she likes to clap. To get your attention. Twice. In quick succession. I heard her shout 'eyes on me' once when trying to address us all about how to stack teacups.

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vonsudenfed · 02/05/2009 17:29

a clipboard?!?! for a toddler group?!

ShowOfHandsNoLongerKissesKunes · 02/05/2009 17:32

She absolutely has a clipboard and her parker pen (no biros, oh no) is attached to it.

She doesn't like men at toddler groups either. They're the enemy and the fact that they choose to come to them makes them odd. Just to qualify, these men have children, so they're dads, not just random chaps off the streets. She doesn't like them though. They should be at work.

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Geekylass · 02/05/2009 17:36

So I'm not the only sad language geek round here, fab!

It is rather amazing that we work it all out, isn't it? And that we can even develop 2 languages or dialects at the same time. Inside those wee heads too

I am also desperate to hear more of Alpha Mummy's adventures. Please give us more!

Geekylass · 02/05/2009 17:38

Please tell me you're making this up I can't believe she exists

bluejeans · 02/05/2009 17:55

DD when she was about same age used to point at photos of herself and say 'it's you!'. I thought this was very cute and yes she did grow out of it

stuckmum · 02/05/2009 18:00

My DS did this when he started talking, constantly got first and second person pronouns the wrong way round.

I just assumed that it was because he'd started talking fairly fluently pretty early, and hadn't quite got the grasp of which way round they went (not strong enough sense of self yet, and so on). Tried correcting it, but found it almost impossible to do in the way they say to correct speech properly - just ended up reinforcing it I think, so gave up. All came good in the end.

He's nearly 7 now, and extremely good verbally with no interventions. Had IQ tests done when he was nearly 5 and the verbal section came out at 155, so definitely no problems there!

Oh, and he also had problems with l and r - difficult when he liked lorries and lollies

Sounds like uber mum is making stuff up, probably cos her DCs aren't as cute or clever as yours

claireybee · 03/05/2009 20:25

Showofhands, yes although dd knows she is a girl now, she is convinced that she used to be her brother and has now grown into herself and will become mummy and then daddy then granny...

We have frequent conversations involving "when I was douggie..." or "when I will be daddy..."

I find it fascinating though and the little mistakes make it all the more interesting.

janek · 03/05/2009 20:45

that's funny cb. OP - your dd is completely normal if mine was, and also my nephew. and as many people have said, it's impossibly to explain/correct. alpha mummy is wrong. isn't she always?!?

pollywobbledoodle · 03/05/2009 20:52

pmsl....more tales of alphamummy please..

SpringySponge · 03/05/2009 21:06

I too support the idea that there should be an Alpha Mummy thread

booyhoo · 04/05/2009 00:05

my ds is convinced i will "grow small like a tiny baby again." when he is big. very cute.

namechangecosfeelingsad · 04/05/2009 00:16

DD is 4.4 now and despite having great speech & vocabulary she has a little quirk of saying 'I like she's shoes Mummy' bstead of HER. I think it is very cute.

Loving AlphaMummy!

CJCregg · 04/05/2009 00:17

booyhoo, my DD does that too - 'When I'm a mummy and you're a baby ...' - haven't the heart to tell her it ain't going to happen.

My DS used to say 'here I are' which I just loved - same confusion, logical reply to 'where are you?' and he grew out of it, to my eternal regret.

JackiePaper · 04/05/2009 20:17

my ds used to do this. I left it for a fair few months, but when it hadn't corrected itself by the time he was nearly 3 I had to explain it to him and correct him every time. It only took a week til he got it.

He mixed up all his pronouns, 'I am putting my coat on' meant you are putting your coat on. 'you want a biscuit' meant I want a biscuit etc. No-one bar me could understand what he was on about!

I felt i had to correct it before he started nursey and he picked it up fairly quickly, as your dd is so young i wouldn't worry.

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