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Saltire · 17/04/2009 20:18

C&P from my thread in parenting

Example - today DS2 and his friend A came in, both crying, saying that Ds1 and his friends B,C,D, and E and Es brother had been punching them and trying to trip them up and wouldn't let them play football. Ds1 denied this point balnk, said it hadn't happened, that DS2 and A were lying.

Ds2 then went out again with A. Boy B then came over(I was upstairs in the bathroom watching at the window)and started saying to Ds2 "why did you say we hit" etc etc. DS2 () siad "shut up you knobhead" to which this boy replied " at least I'm not bald" (which was an odd statement to make since Ds2 has a full head of hair). DS2 replied" at least I'm not black" - the child in question isn't black but does have very dark skin tone. The boy then started calling Ds2 a F*g little S*T and a B*d. I went out and hauled Ds2 in and gave him a lecture on how he wasn't to say things like that, it wasn't nice, it was racist etc and told him to go out and apolgise. He did this, but the boy he said it to kept going on and on saying "I'm going to punch your F*g lights out", the other boys - apart from DS1 were giving DS2 the finger, 2 fingers, calling him a Racist C, and lots of other names. Ds1 stood by and let this happen.
When I aksed them what happened initially (WRT to the accusations of hitting) they both told me different stories.

I am at the end of my tether I really am. I am sick of the language the DSes use, the fighting and lying and answering back. it was never a problem until we moved. I have brought them both in, and gorunded them.

I don't know how to handle this or where I'm going wrong.

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Saltire · 17/04/2009 20:28

That'll be a no too then?. I'm off now then.

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loler · 17/04/2009 20:41

How old are they?

Not sure what I would do either, dragging them in was a good start as it gives a chance for it all to calm down.

The racist bit would bother me more than bad language (the language would be to show off only). Again not sure what I would do - not looking forward to my dc reach this age!

blissa · 17/04/2009 20:44

Saltire, I really don't know what to say but didn't want you to feel ignored. How old are your boys?

Saltire · 17/04/2009 21:15

They are 11 and 9. Thanks for answering, but it's ok, I ....well it doesn't matter now

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thisisyesterday · 17/04/2009 21:20

have read this 3 times saltire. again, didn't want you to feel it had gone unread but not sure I could offer any good advice tbh with you.

what would I do?? I think i would stop them seeing any friends that were a bad influence.
it's hard isn't it?

loler · 17/04/2009 21:30

At that age I would think most of it is for show. The fact that you reacted to it is great.

You mustn't think you're doing anything wrong. In the same way that their toddler tantrums weren't your fault either.

Do your dc normally get on? Is it just these friends? What about the friends parents, do you know them? They might be able to help/give advice?

Good luck - in the wise words of MN 'and this too will pass'.

ABetaDad · 17/04/2009 22:26

Saltire - is it a reaction to his Dad being away? I think I remember you talking about your personal circumstances a while ago?

If so, you might want to explore that issue with DS2 - he may be really struggling.

Doodle2U · 17/04/2009 22:32

I think I'd bollock my children from here to eternity and then some, TBH. Ground 'em - good move. I think I might also add in chores and take away a whole load of stuff for them to earn back.

I don't know how you stop them from getting in with a 'bad' crowd when the crowd in question is where you live but I do know that getting them out to clubs/sports/scouts keeps them busy, productive and off the streets.

Plonker · 17/04/2009 22:38

So it is the 9yo who was using the bad/racist language?

My dd is the same age and I would be devastated and absolutely livid to hear her speak like that

I'm not sure what to advise really as I haven't got any experience with this. FWIW I think you did exactly the right thing by reprimanding him immediately, making him apologise and bringing them both in.

My tact, I think, would to keep a very very close eye on who they are playing with (from your OP it's obvious that the other boy isn't exactly blame-free in all this). Any signs of inappropriate behaviour and I would haul them in. Not sure how you put this into action when you can't hear them though ...??

I hope someone with some proper advice will come along and help soon.

Plonker · 17/04/2009 22:39

I think Doodle has a good plan - are there any planned activities/clubs they can join?

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