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Feel like such a mean mummy to my 3 year old

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fluffyanimal · 02/04/2009 12:49

Hello, this could be slightly long so please bear with me but would love some words of wisdom.

Background: DS recently turned 3. DH and I both work full time and DS goes to a lovely local nursery where he has always been very happy. He is currently waiting for space to become available in the pre-school section of his nursery so is now doing pre-school type activities with his usual key-worker and other children from his nursery room in a room adjacent to the nursery room he has been in since age 2.

I am expecting DC2 in early August.

The problem: recently, DS wants to turn every little thing into a battle of wills, e.g. "10 more minutes play and then it's bath time" - "I don't want a bath" with lots of (usually exaggerated) grizzling. Most of the time we can usually jolly him out of it or negotiate so that he gets a little bit of what he wants in return for doing what we want him to do. But this week the real flash point has been getting him to nursery without some of this kind of drama and as a result we've been leaving the house later and later. I work at a uni and the students are on vacation so I've not had to be so strict about what time I leave the house, but it is getting out of hand. Also, yesterday apparently he was a bit out of sorts at nursery, a bit prone to bursting into tears which is very out of character.

So this morning he went into melt down when I told him it was time to turn off the TV and go to nursery, and DH got fed up and spoke to him quite sharply that this nonsense was just not on and he had to do as he was told. We got him out of the house and then as we were getting in the car he started with "I want my red coat". Well it's his winter coat, it's a gorgeous day here and he'd already chosen his Thomas the Tank fleece jumper, so we said no, its too warm, you don't need it and we're not going back to the house now. Total meltdown, kicking and screaming in the car all the way to nursery, real hysterical hiccuppy crying "I don't want to go to nursery". I just burst into tears when I handed him over to the nurses - who were brilliant and instantly wisked him away to comfort and distract him. They called later to say he was absolutely fine, we talked about it and they told me he sees the coat as a bit of a security blanket, which I didn't know because he usually refuses to wear it unless it is really very cold or raining.

So I feel really rotten now, wonder if we should have given in for the sake of a stupid coat, but also don't want to keep giving in to him over things because like I say, he is making everything into a battle at the moment. Also wondering if he is getting anxious about the new baby on the way. All he really seems to understand is that mummy has a baby in her tummy, but maybe there is more to it as he has also been quite clingy lately.

So lovely MNetters please help me feel like I'm not a horrible cruel dragon mummy and have you got any advice for preparing for a new sibling? Thanks if you've read this far!

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Umlellala · 02/04/2009 12:57

Have you read How to Talk so kids will listen? Lots in there about empathy... so 'I know you want your red coat...'. Makes you feel less mean too!

(ps congrats on imminent sibling - it must be hard for them to deal with)

fluffyanimal · 02/04/2009 13:12

I haven't read it but am now wondering whether I should.

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notnowbernard · 02/04/2009 13:25

3 a tricky age... have left the toddlerish tantrums that are easier to ignore behind and now strop and demand with great gusto

I'd say pick your battles, definitely (I'd let him have the red coat if that's what he wants)

He could be aware of the imminent sibling. If he's not, then he soon will be so expect a few behaviour changes, possibly

Good luck

nickschick · 02/04/2009 13:32

I think at 3 hes going through lots of emotional maturation and hes having lots of changes and sometimes its very hard to process these thoughts and it is a hard time for a 3 year old- any 3 year old not just yours.

Hers what Id suggest- Do not offer choices that way you are cutting down on the decisions he has to make using the coat as an example ,just tell him tody is red coat day or thomas dat ...you decide.

I would imagine that the change in nursery room has unsettled him bit as has the growing bump -its life we have to suffer change and he will adapt.

What I m thinking has the loss of an hours sleep affected him? is he perhaps sickening for something?

Its almost Easter you will have few family days together perhaps that will help settle him.

fluffyanimal · 02/04/2009 13:37

Thanks Nickschick, am looking forward to the long Easter weekend especially since I had to go away for work last weekend, which is a rare occurence. The nursery change isn't really that much of a change, he is still with the same key worker and with the same children, which is not what it will be like when he makes the move to the pre-school section proper, but I guess he could still be feeling a bit unsettled by the 'big boy now' aspect of it.

Sleepwise since the clock change he is resisting getting ready for bed while it's still light so he has been going to bed about 30 minutes later than usual, and consequently sleeping later which is not helping us to get ready with our usual efficiency in the morning. I also wondered if he could be sickening for something, but nothing has shown up yet...

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thatsnotmymonster · 02/04/2009 13:38

I am having battles with my 2 oldest ones at the moment (ds just turned 4 and dd1 2.7).

DS is the star negotiator and dd1 is amazingly stubborn and whiney!! We have treated ds a lot like you treat yours from the sound of it i.e. a little bit his way so that he will do what want. Only thing is that all it has done is train him to negotiate and expect to get what he wants .

DD refuses to let me help her do anything, despite the fact that she just can't do some things (tie her own shoe laces etc), so she ends up having a melt down when I do have to help her and we always end up running late. She whines constantly.

Anyway, I have just started being much stricter and I don't give them any choices i.e. instead of saying Would you like to put a jumper on? I know say Come here and put this jumper on.

Their behaviour is definitely better.

DS had just turned 3 when his 2nd baby sister was born. Although he was very happy about it (he already had one so he wasn't jealous), he did get very emotional and his behaviour was affected for a while. He was worried about me while I was in hospital having dd2 and he was overwhelmed emotionally when we came home.

oneofakind · 02/04/2009 20:09

hi we are going through the same thing with ds (3.4) and have been for the past two months - he is so willful and whingy at times I could scream! we think the longer hours at nursery once he turned 3 and being with more children has definitely affected him - he really grizzles when he has to go but settles ok. i am going to pick him up earlier from next term (using flexi/annual leav to do this) and I think the idea of less choice is a good one. maybe as much one to one time as you can give him would help especially leading up to the birth of no 2.
sorry, not much help but you are definitely not alone!

Karoleann · 02/04/2009 22:23

I have had the same problem some thursdays. My older DS who's almost three goes to nursery on wednesday and thursday.
Wednesdays he's fine, he goes at 7.40ish gets to nursery for 8 and is no problem at all. (I work on wednesday)
Thursdays when i give him breakfast at home he's sometimes terrible. I've tried a few things and the best so far is just to be really determined and strict, keep repeating the same thing. I find Thomas is better turning the tv off himself.
I'm also going to try and get him to nursery earlier as its just easier.
(I've also get a little one too 9 months)

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