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If your DC wakes up from afternoon nap at around 3.30p.m. what time do they go to bed? (DS 15 mths)

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puppie · 07/01/2009 12:37

Hubby and I are tearing our hair out at the moment. If DS has an afternoon nap and wakes up roughly at around 3.30 he wont go to sleep at night until about 9.00-9.30 which I think is far too late for a 15 month old.

We start to put him to bed at 7.30 and it sometimes takes us 2 hours of monotony in his nursery (in the dark) to get him off to sleep.

The only way he goes to sleep at 7.30-8.00 is if he wakes up from his nap no later than 2.00 p.m. Help!

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Ineedmorechocolatenow · 07/01/2009 12:40

What time do you put him down? Sometimes DS sleeps til 3.30, but only if we've put him down late. He then goes to sleep around 7.30. He's 2 tho, and has about 1.5 hours nap a day and sleeps for 11 hours at night.

Seona1973 · 07/01/2009 12:43

ds (2.3 years) has a nap around 12.30pm and I have to wake him around 2.30pm for the school run. He is in bed for about 7.30pm but can chatter and play about till 8pm (or later) but I just leave him to it. Have you tried for an earlier nap? What time does he wake in the morning?

puppie · 07/01/2009 12:46

DS goes to a childminder 4 days a week and she puts him down to sleep whenever she thinks he is tired but he generally will only sleep for about an hour at a time while there.

When at home we put him down for a nap at around 11.00 am and he will sleep until around 1.30 and then goes to bed like a dream. I am loathe to tell childminder to stick to my routine as he would then miss his lunch (or eat very late) and she has other children so understand that she cannot cater exactly to each ones routine.

I know he also gets shattered while there with all the stimulation so wouldnt want her to keep him awake. Was just wondering if there is a 'cut-off time' for DC's that will mean they will not go to bed easily.

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Shoshe · 07/01/2009 12:49

I am a CM, and always have my mindees down for nap by 12.30, I usually find that they want lunch by 11.30, so we lunch, clean up change bums and in bed, they are then all awake by 2.30 for the school run.

Luckily everything we go to is close apart from Tuesday Soft Play, so we can get home by 11.30 and I have lunch ready just to warm up, so we still have time to go to things in the morning.

puppie · 07/01/2009 12:53

Shoshe that would be ideal. Are your mindees roughly the same age? My CM has four under 2's and the schoolkids in the afternoon. (she has an assistant). She doesnt seem to put the kids down at the same time though.

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llareggub · 07/01/2009 13:00

My DS is a little older than yours but has been in the same sort of pattern since he was about 14 months or so.

It doesn't matter to him what time he sleeps. He can sleep until 5pm and still be ready for bed at 7.30pm. We don't sit with him, just give him his bath, brush his teeth, read a story etc and then put him to bed somewhere between 7.30pm and 8pm, usually more like 8pm if he woke up at 5pm, although this is rare.

When he was about 12 months old we'd wait until he actually fell asleep before putting him to bed as he was fully breastfed at the time and would fall asleep on the boob. We decided to break this cycle at around 13 months or so and bit the bullet.

We'd put him to bed after the bedtime story, give him cuddles etc and close the door. We'd then leave the room.

We had to go back upstairs ooh, at least 30 times or so that first week because he'd stand at the top of the stairs throwing down teddies to get our attention. One of us would pick him up, give him a kiss and say "no, sleep time now" and put him back to bed.

After a week or so he got the hang of it, and now when he goes to bed he stays there. I sometimes hear him talking to his soft toys until around 8pm, but he is happy enough and it has really sorted out his sleep patterns. He now wakes up at 7am, which is far better than the disturbed patters we had previously.

He really needs his naptime and we use a similar process during the afternoon. I never wake him up though, but appreciate some people might have to because of school runs etc.

Shoshe · 07/01/2009 13:29

no i have one who is 10 months (sh may well have 10 mins sleep in the car on the way to wherever we are going in the morning as well)
a 13 month and a 3 month, actually the elder child sleep the longest, she would sleep three hours if left, the middle one about 1.5 hours and the littlest one about hours.

They all go down at the same time in the same room, they might talk fro a few minutes but within 10 minutes are usually asleep.

Shoshe · 07/01/2009 13:30

That should be 23 month on 3 months, blardy 2 dosnt work proper like!

muppetgirl · 07/01/2009 13:32

my 14 month goes to bed a 6pm no matter what time he has slept till. During the holidays he had a late afternoon nap and would still go to sleep normal time. I think it just depends on your child.

wasabipeanut · 07/01/2009 13:37

I think it depends very much on the child - sleep requirements seem to vary wildly. My ds is 16mo and when he's at home the latest I allow him to nap is 4pm and then we go for a 7 - 7.30 light out.

When he goes to nursery he can be so knackered that he nods of in his buggy on the way home between 6 and 6.30 but still goes to sleep at 7.30 after a bath, milk and story. Sometimes I think the catnap refreshes him and stops his sleep being disrupted because he's overtired.

He's always needed a lot of sleep. If he doesn't have one good long nap in the afternoon he's an absolute so and so and sleeps badly at night.

puppie · 07/01/2009 13:39

We have alsways cuddled DS to sleep (I know prob created a rod!) but recently he has started to struggle and cant seem to get comfortable in our arms anymore so we are putting him in cot to get himself comfortable which is when the shennanigans start. He cant seem to sleep in our arms anymore or cot.

When he is shattered though and not had a late nap he will fall asleep at the bottle and we put him in cot. Do you ladies think if he was able to self-soothe he would fall asleep at roughly same time every night regardless of afternoon nap? It would seem that for some of your DCs the time of nap does not matter.

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ChirpyGirl · 07/01/2009 14:01

My 15 month old goes down straight after lunch, (sometimes if lunch is later than 12 she falls asleep in her highchair with no warning)
She sleeps until half 2 ish and then goes up at half 6 with her sister for bed at 7.
DD1 is 2.10 and she naps every other day from 1 until about half 3 and still goes down at 7.
Agree with muppetgirl, it is down to the child.

Hersetta · 07/01/2009 14:45

My DD is 16 months and often naps for an hour around 4.00 till 5.00. She'll then have her dinner and play and be full of beans and we put her to bed between 8.30 and 9.00. She then sleeps for 11 hours. Suits our routine as I get to spend 2-3 hrs with her when i get home from work and also she's not up at the crack of dawn!

Thankyouandgoodnight · 07/01/2009 16:16

My 2.1 year old still naps in the day for up to 2 hours and I always wake her by 3:30pm and she goes to bed at 6:30-7pm every night without fail.

I do think that he would benefit a lot from being able to 'self-soothe' in that sense. I'm sure we'll all have lots of ideas on how to help with that ! I also think that having a fixed bed time (earlier rather than later) works generally.

ByThePowerOfGreyskull · 07/01/2009 16:18

we found that we missed DS's window if we tried to start the evening routine after 6.30pm They got to sleep fastest if they are in bed at 7pm if it is as late as 7.30pm it can take 2 hours.

puppie · 08/01/2009 09:08

Fickle little things arent they! BTPOG agree with the 'window' theory.

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littleboyblue · 08/01/2009 09:17

My ds 17m, has lunch at about 11:30 and is normally asleep by 12:30, sometime he can sleep til 3:30 and he will bath at 7 and bed straight after that. If for some reason he sleeps past 4, I bath at 7 and try to keep him up for a bit, but he normally wants to be in bed by 7:30 at latest anyway

ThingOne · 08/01/2009 09:30

My DS2 is now a little older (2.8) but we've had this problem with both of ours if they nap late. Not tired enough to sleep at 7/7.30 but too tired to stay up past bedtime.

DS2 is growing out of naps but can't manage it every day. We try to get him to nap straight after lunch at 12.30 for an hour, max, but if he doesn't sleep because he's not tired enough, it can be tricky.

We're stuffed if we're out in the car for more than twenty minutes after three. Fortunately we can normally avoid this.

A morning nap works best apart from the fact you miss everything which rules it out . Most weeks he misses at least one of highly expensive toddler swimming (as he's in the car) or local toddlers (as he's just been out in the car). Drives me insane! But not as insane as I will be when he stops napping completely.

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