HELP*MY 19MTH BABY BOY PASSES OUT WHEN HAVING A TANTRUM!*

[mumof3gems]

Hi
Can anyone share experience or give advice? My 19mth baby has started to pass out when having a crying tantrum, he starts to cry then does what I call a silent cry when he is breathing in, he then is either not breathing out or carnt, goes blue and passes out. It is so frightening, the doctors just say he will grow out of it! Help!!

Yes, DD did this quite often when tantruming, we thought she had her last one just before she turned 2 but had another one 2 months ago and nothing since then she is now 2.9. They do grow out of it, my doctor said that if they cry and do this then it is OK it is when they pass out when not tantruming they don't. Blow on face, lots of cuddles, fluids and snoozing is what we did.

My dd used to do this at this age, although she would take a breath just in time to stop from passing out. My HV said the same as your gp, also to ignore her even though it is scary. I did this, and she did stop.
I can't remember how long it took though.

My friends DS does this. Blowing on the face works for him

My ds does this and blowing in his face does work.

Just be aware that your ds maybe really sleepy afterwards as it takes an awful lot of the body's enery to pass out to then 're boot' the respitory system.

i use to do this and it scared my mum every time. she did the same just blow in their face your ds will grow out of it.

oh dear better watch out for this. DD 23 mo turns blue when having a tantrum. we try to give her a cuddle and shout "breathe, breathe". Not got to the point of passing out yet but wouldn't be surprised as we get into the post 2 biggies.

Ooh he's kinking! I've known a fer children do this, various things help. Splashing water at them, tapping their back, blowing in the face...all triggor them to breath again. Don't worry about it...I know it seems scary.

Our ds2 does this. First time he was 8 months old which is apparently very young. Its called a reflex anoxic seizure - posh name for crying so hard they faint. In his case its triggered by pain, so far a cough when he had tonsilitis, trapping fingers in a draw and banging his head. Now he's almost walking we're getting one potential episode every few days but we're ready for it now.

Blowing in his face, boucing and talking to him work, anything to shock him into breathing again.

Apparently does no long term harm and they do grow out of it. We're seeing the paediatrician today to get this all formally confirmed.

Hi my dd has also done this about 4 times, 3 of them were when she`was in pain like pheobe says.
blowing/patting helps, i find it very hard not to panic as she goes very blue very quickly. she is 20 months now.

Seen the paed today and she has signed ds2 off as a 'classic breath holder'. Apparently, it won't harm him cos as soon as he faints he starts breathing again, won't have any long term consequences and he will grow out of it. She did say if they escalate, get more severe, happen out of the blue, if he starts twitching or if it lasts longer than five mins seek medical help, apart from that, shock him out of it

Well it least it is not anything serious, but it doesnt stop us worrying, or make it any less scary.

I was hysterical when dd did it second time, and was going to phone ambulance.
dh was great took her off me and was all calm.

Yes, my DH is the calm one too. First 2 times we've done the ambulane blue lighted to A&E thing. The last time DH took him off me and within a couple of minutes was playing with him on the floor

It doesn't help when your baby is floppy in your arms, just hoping I can learn to deal with it a bit better now

mumof3gems - hope this has helped. I'd never heard of it before ds2 started, now it seems its not that unusual

pheebe the first time it happened I was in a shoe shop. She hadnt been walking long, and I thought oh I will let her walk (on reigns) for a change.

Well I was sat down and she spun round,twisting the reins and fell. she banged her head on the hard floor (sounded awful)
I picked her up she looked at me eyes rolled in her head lips went blue and then her eyes shut and she went all floppy.

I honestly thought she had died, it was the worst moment of my life (souinds dramatic) but it was awful. I screamed someone help me.
A lady came and took her off me and put her in recovery position, I was heavily pregnant and on the verge of collapsing. then all of a sudden she started screaming, which the lady assured me was a good sign, but ambulance came nonetheless.they frighten and worry us to death.

Ambulance took forever, but she was fine ten min later.

How awful for you. I was home alone with poorly ds1 (4) upstairs in bed. I can honestly say I have never been so terrified in my life. DS2 literally collapsed in my arms, went as limp as a rag doll, but by the time I'd got across the room to the phone was coming out of it. The ambulance was there in less than 5 mins (longest 5 mins of my life) and just as they turned up, so did my father in law! Never have I been more glad to see anyone!

I always thought of myself as a strong capable person but am amazed at how vulnerable I am when it comes to my kids.

Has she done it since? We've found bouncing and blowing on ds2 usually breaks the cry and brings him out of it before he goes into a full faint and I also try and have a cold flannel to hand (he hates that!)

We're dreading the tantruming stage!

Oh I know how you feel.
She has done it twicw since then.
I think the second time may have been a tantrum (not had many) and she did the whole silent cry thing then went blue and floppy.
Third time dh said she hurt her hand and she ran towards me doing the silent cry again iykwim and then just passed out in a heap on the floor, thats when I picked her up and shit myself , but I hadnt got close to the phone and she came round. Dh rocks/jiggles blows on her face etc....

I now try really hard with distraction techniques to prevent a tantrum/meltdown.