Could this have caused my daughters speech disorder ??

[mummyloveslucy]

My daughter has a severe speech disorder, and is having speech therapy every week.
The speech therapist says that she was born with the disorder and that we couldn't have done any more to help her.
I just wondered though weather it had anything to do with my hyperemisis throughout my pregnancy?
Even before I knew I was pregnant I started being sick, and it got to the stage when I was being sick every 20 mins, day and night. It was awfull and I ended up in hospital for 5 days.
I just wondered weather my daughter was starved of the right nutreunts to help that area of her brain develop.
Could this be a possible cause ?

Sadly there never seems to be a magic cure - its always a long hard slog.

Obviously your dd's case may be different to my old mindee but i wanted to tell you about him as for a while we really didn't think he would ever talk properly and the SALT taught me, his preschoola dn his mum sign language to use with him. We didn't really need to use this for long though - maybe 10 months- before his language had improved to a point where he could generally make himself understood to us through speech.

I've mentioned sign language or maccaton to the SALT but she says that Lucys vocab is too advanced. She can usually make her key points understood, but she want's to chat about things and tell stories etc. She'd have to learn a sign for nearly every word in the english language.

Well thats a good sign Frustrating for her now but more positive long term.

Thanks dustystar.

I also don't think so at all.

I had medication for hyperemesis in my second pregnancy and nothing in my first becoming very malnourised (I have a picture of me at about 16 weeks pregnant looking practically skeletal).

I worry about my second child (he is a relatively late speaker but has been coming on well lately) and do wonder about the tablets in early pregnancy.With hyperemesis it really is out of your hands though - I couldn't have got through the pregnancy safely without anything.

If you are considering another child I would advise you to post here as although American in set up there is a British contingent and they will certainly reassure you about things.Hyperemesis does tend to reoccur I'm afraid.Good luck with everything.

Thanks everyone for your responses. I'm pleased that there is no link.
I'm going to bed now, as I did a night shift last night so I'm really tired.
That's the problem with nights, too much time to think. This idea came to me at 4am, when I could hardly see streight.
Good night everyone. xx

I have a friend who had very severe hyperemisis in all her pregnancies but none of her children have speech disorders mll. I know that's circumstancial, but I'd be inclined to believe the speech therapist if I were you. (It is worth noting though that having had hyperemisis once you are more likely to have it again with subsequent pregnancies I understand)

Sleep well

I know what you mean about the planning thing. I plan to the nth degree and get in a state of exremely high pissoff when it doesn't go right. It all came off the rails for us when our DS6 had Selecive Mutism and associated School Phobia. His distress was extreme and we took him out of school for a year. ( He also had input fron CAMHS) I taught him at home during that time. It is difficult because those disorders are inherited and we can see the same stuff in DH. (I am currently instructing DH how to make yogurt cos I am too busy with Mumsnet financial issues). Basically, IKWYM - and I get frustrated too - my DS won't/can't talk to people - they think he's stupid/rude/ignorant, but he is the most polite, caring and pleasant child you could ever wish to meet. Your daughter sounds lovely - thank you for your post - it has given me insight, maybe sometimes when I can't understand what a child is saying, I should ask Mum/Dad why not? and be more patient.

No, no, no, it could not have caused it.

I had hyperemesis in my first pregnancy and when it looked like happening in my second, my GP prescribed anti-emetic drugs, which I took till the 20th week. My baby is measuring very small at 32 weeks, and I have already gone through all the ways I could have caused this: eating too much oily fish, lying on my stomach too much, lying on my back too much, drinking one cup of coffee a day when I should have given up. It's natural to blame yourself or look for causes, but almost always totally unfounded.

Do go ahead and try for a second baby if you want to - but ask about drugs if you fall into the same pattern of constantly throwing up, you'll know within a couple of weeks of the morning sickness starting, I did. My second pregnancy has been so much easier simply because I haven't been sick all day long every day.

No I don't think so at all.

I had severe Hyperemesis and had to be admitted to hospital 5 times to be put on a drip and my 2 yr old DD doesn't seem to have been affected when it comes to speech. I want another baby and am going to make damn sure that I don't go through the severity of sickness like I did before so don't be afraid of taking drugs to calm the sickness.

Don't let it put you off having another one because as you know, the sickness disappears as soon as your little one enters the world! we are planning our 2nd. Good luck

Hello MML

I had Hyperemesis with all of mine, ds3 has ASD with a severe speech disorder; ds1 has asd; ds2 is NT and ds4 is tiny (but showing a few signs of not being average, hoping just babyness and about to see a cranial osteopath).

I suspect I have some idea of what you're going through.

Except that I am priveledged to have worked on a HG support / info line for blooming awful so I have a much wider picture.

Firstly, the only child of mine that needed hospitalisation was ds1; the rest were all sorted with meds. DS1 has a speech and language age of 16 - 321 at his last assessment (almost 3 years ago aged 6). So, clearly no major damage there then!

None of the othe mums I talked to about their HG- babies reported any SN.

HG is terrible for the mother, but the baby only suffers if evere dehydration is allowed to progressa nd threaten life. I kow of many cases where Mum's health has taken ages to recovre, PND has arisen etc etc etc- bt not issues with baby.

I have a list of things in my head that could have triggered the boys SN; all of them start with something I didnt do, or should have done, etc etc etc. That's normal, i think. but even if HG were related then what could you have done? Why wuld that be aby different to say contracting a virus? It woouldn't.

the time after a dx for sn is hard; and often needs conselling to get throug. What you are experiencing I think is a normal step but you must be gentle on yourself.

'Hyperemesis does tend to reoccur I'm afraid'

True.

But not always- definitely not always.

And if it does occur again, his time you know the signs, should be able to access the rights meds earlier on and will be taken seriously far more easily.

Hello mummy loves lucy. I have read a few of your threads recently and although your concern for Lucy is touching you definately worry an awful lot!

Please try not to worry about everything, you need to take a breath and relax. Enjoy Lucy. I certainly do not wish to sound as if I am negating your fears, we all have them but in your threads you really worry so much about stuff.

Lucy sounds delightful and I am sure she will go far with you supporting her.

Now, stop worrying and enjoy your lovely daughter

Hi, thanks everyone.

I'm a bit concerned that hyperemesis tends to reoccur. This could make me re think the whole thing to be honest.
When I had it with Lucy I remember thinking I'd give anything to be put to sleep and woken up when it's over. It was horrendous.
Now I have a young child to look after as well, and I don't think I could cope. I could hardly look after myself last time.
I will look in to it.

HG is a lottery- some get a reoccurance some don't. Tgere is no way of knowing tbh. Even if it does happen agan it may be less severe.

FIrst sign I had of HG with ds2 I went to GP and he prescribed me the meds to keep at home if needed- massive difference!

My son has dyspraxia and I never had a single episode of sickness and a brilliant diet. It is natural but pointless to blame yourself when your child has anything wrong with them, so please try not to.

This time, I'd get the medication sooner.
It did help.
I do think it's worth the risk, I might regret saying that.