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New mum - please help

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Benjy · 22/07/2008 15:58

Hi

I gave birth to my daughter 11 days ago. The labour was v. difficult: back labour, failure to progress so ended up with several interventions and whole thing lasted 40 hours from first contractions five minutes apart to the birth. Drs. and midwives refused my request for pain relief until I had been in labour for nearly 24 hours: contractions by this point were practically on top of one another and lasting over a minute. Epidural then did not work but they would not resite or top it up. End result highly traumatic labour for me though amazingly baby showed no signs of distress.

She breastfed once after delivery but from then on would latch on for comfort but would not feed (I refused pethidine so she wasn't affected by my pain relief choices). I desperately wanted to breastfeed and asked for help in my birth plan and from the midwives on the maternity ward but I didn't get any other than instructions on how to do it. Nobody stayed with me through an attempted feed to show me how. End result was that I had to top up with formula because she wasn't feeding at all and now I feel like I have failed at that as well as the birth. I continued to latch her on and have expressed so she has had some breastmilk each day but I have never produced more than about 1 floz a day - my mature milk hasn't come in. Also I am only producing colostrum from one breast; I had a large lump removed from the other a few years ago and imagine some of the glandular tissue must have been lost. I have told several midwives about my difficulties but none has been able to offer help. They are surpised my milk hasn't come in and that only one breast is producing but can't tell me why or what to do about it.

The other issue I have is that she cries constantly and will only settle eventually if she is held. The second she is put down, she starts to scream. Have checked for all the usual causes of crying. I think we're giving her enough formula but am not sure to be honest how much she should be getting and at what rate to increase her feeds. She is on 60ml per feed (every 3 hours) at the moment (she weighed 6Ib 8oz at birth). I think she is just a baby that needs to be held but I'm finding this so difficult. My DH returns to work next week and I have no family or friends nearby so I am worrying about how I will cope.

The other issue is that I have been in severe pain the last couple of days with heavy bleeding. I went to see the GP today and he has put me on antibiotics for a suspected urine and uterine infection - Ciprofloxacin - so I can't feed my daughter breastmilk for the next few days. If it hasn't cleared up by the end of the week I have to go back to the hospital for a scan to see if I have any retained placenta. I wondered if this was maybe a reason why my milk hasn't come in because it was my understanding that it was the expulsion of the placenta that triggered the hormones needed for milk production but the doctor said he hadn't heard of this (he was an OB/GYN before training as a GP).

I know I have posted a lot here and will probably copy the post onto other boards as it crosses a lot of subjects. I am finding it hard to cope with, particularly the birth and it's aftermath and my daughter's constant crying and need to be held, so I would really appreciate any help and suggestions.

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Saffy77 · 23/07/2008 01:13

Congrats on the birth of your daughter!

My DD is now 11 months and also cried a lot when she was a newborn. I remember on her 10th day with us she just spent the whole day crying. My HV said that perhaps she was just having a bad day but i was completely lost with all the crying. However now i see that she was just so tiny and vulnerable and that she just wanted to be close to her mum or dad. So i would suggest a sling, am a fan of co-sleepig (as long as you dont smoke) and just lots of love and cuddles. Just try and enjoy your first weeks with her. Oh and dont worry about routines etc thats for a bit later.

The 60ml of milk sounsd great for her age....my daughter was awful at feeding, you just would not believe how bad! But we got through it and so will you.

Good luck....and if all else fails, ear plugs!

1dilemma · 23/07/2008 01:35

Hi congratulations.
I wont offer advice because you've got loads on here.
Just 2 things people said helped me

  1. the crying will stop! It's true it does make sure when your dh gets in if it's been a lot that day you get some little quiet time just for yourself but it will stop
  2. the only way your dd can communicate with you is by crying sometimes they just want to be held and it's OK to do that. It's OK to just sit there and cuddle your new baby, just as it's OK to sleep when she does. (For me I was particularly fixed on feeding every 4 hours don't know why I'd just got it into my head that that was right once I was able to let go of that it helped me) just cuddling my baby to have a cuddle helped me to do that. (Although it was about 6 weeks before I had a hot cup of tea and I managed to learn how to pee whilst cuddling a baby!!) HTH
lucyellensmum · 23/07/2008 10:37

hello again, i just wanted to add, im not sure if any of us remembered to say that the colostrum that you have been feeding your baby with is full of antibodies which will kick start your babies immune system in the best way possible, so you have already given her the best start in life any baby could have.

take care xxx

chocbutton · 23/07/2008 12:04

Just wanted to echo the good advice others have posted.
I struggled with BF at first and found the NCT helpline really useful, and a counsellor came out and sat with me for a few hours - they are on Breastfeeding Line - 0870 444 8708
8am?10pm, seven days a week

Another M'netter gave me tiktok's link to check the compatibility of your medication with regards to breastfeeding which I have found very useful. Unfortunately lots of GP's don't seem to know that much about BF.

I think your little one just wants to be held and feel the comfort of mum for now, nothing wrong with this and is quite normal.

Please see if you can get some help from friends or family -could someone come and stay for a few days or come for the day to give you a break? I didn't like to ask for help but found that people were really pleased to be able to do something useful. Or ask your HV what groups are around that may help you. DH may also need to take a bit more time off as HG said - you need looking after as well, you have done amazingly well.
xx

firststeps · 23/07/2008 20:03

Hi Benjy, I had a very traumatic birth with DS2, he also screamed constantly and had to be held all the time. We took him to a chiropractor at 3 weeks old and she found that his neck was jammed in 3 places due to his very rapid ventouse delivery. We also dscovered that he was comfort feeding to relieve the pain in his neck which was in turn giving him colic. 3 treatments later he was like a different baby. Chiropractors and cranial osteopaths can work wonders with babies who have had traumatic labour and delivery, based on my experience I can't recommend them highly enough. HTH

Benjy · 25/07/2008 20:45

I had just typed out a long reply and lost it. Will try and quickly retype the gist of it.

I have bought a fabric sling and will try it properly when the weather is a little cooler. I put her in briefly and she seemed quite contented so I'm hoping this works and I will be hands free again! I have actually been able to put her down for a while today so perhaps things are gradually improving. I was interested to see that cranial osteopathy mentioned. I have heard about this before but don't know much about it - are they regulated by a professional body and is it quite safe?

My mum died last year, my dad lives abroad and my sister lives a couple of hundred miles away and has a young family of her own so I don't have family that can help. My PIL live at the other end of the country and I'm not sure they would help and I'm not sure I want them to help really. I think it would be more stressful than managing alone as I don't have any easy relationship with my them. I live in SE London and I know there are plenty of networks and local groups around. I'll try and find out more about these when I'm feeling a bit better.

I do feel very tearful when I think about the birth. I feel like I shouldn't let it affect me so much. The good thing though is that it hasn't affected my relationship with my daughter. I love her more than I ever could have imagined. She and her dad are everything to me and she has only been part of my life for two weeks.

It is a hard stage but it is also wonderful and I love being a mum.

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BananaSkin · 25/07/2008 21:11

Benjy, congratulations firstly . Cranial osteopathy worked wonders for us and you should be able to google the regulating body I imagine.

Don't sweep under the carpet any feelings you have about the birth. On another site I frequent, several people are having counselling due to their birth trauma and are benefitting by talking about it openly. You sound like you had a hideous time.

I would definitely get to see a breastfeeding counsellor too.

kitkat9 · 26/07/2008 00:41

Benjy, I don't have anything else to add advice wise, as usual the mner's hae been fabulous with support. I just want to sympathise regarding your labour and delivery - I had a horrendous time too with ds, 4 years ago; it wasn't 40 hours, only 15, but I truly believed I was going to die.

It's all such a shock, isn't it? I mean, I knew it would hurt, but bloody hell! I had a back-to-back labour, bab got stuck, ventouse, zillions of stiches, etc etc...
and I can tell you you WILL get past this. I promise. I was offered counselling, which I didn't have - I found that by talking about it to my midwife, lots, and my friends, family, anyone who would listen really, it all helped. You kind of need to get it striaght in your own mind and come to terms with it.

You aren't failing at anything - you've done the most incredible thing and have a beautiful child to prove it. Well done you! Be proud of yourself, you're surviving. The shock of labour combined with having a brand new baby to learn about is a big deal! I know how hard it is to have the baby who needs held all the time, who cries all the time....this stage will pass, and every day will get a little bit easier for you. Honestly.

Practically talking, a lifesaver for me with my 2nd child (see - I did it again! )was a battery operated swing - you know, like a bouncy chair but you can set it to swing, with music playing. You can also get the vibrating ones which are probably quite good. I just kept on putting dd in it until she got very used to the motion, and she would doze happily in it. I loved it. Probably more than she did.

Highlander · 26/07/2008 15:57

Benjy - I too had a screamer and I was stuck overseas with no family or friends.

I cannot recommend Harvey Karp's book enough. It saved my life.

It's a total shocker firsat time round how much babies 'need' you - they naturally want to be held all the time. It's normal, and you won't be 'spoiling' her. Sling is a fab idea.
DS2 wrecking house, GOOD LUCK

kiskidee · 27/07/2008 10:54

The harvey karp book is excellent. another one stuck overseas with no help with a tiny baby after a traumatic birth in the first few weeks. hugs.

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