Terrible Twos trauma group....

[CountessDracula]

Anyone else suffering at the moment? Honestly I have just been hanging out for bedtime all day....

I know at the time putting your 2ish yr old in a cupboard seems the only solution but, hopefully, you look back on the event and have a little laugh to your self (I know I do) on the trial you dealt with today without putting him/her in the cupboard of course. It's is so bizare reading some of the stories and thinking 'yeah my son has done that oh and that'

The shouting "NO I DON'T WANT POSTMAN PAT ON!" when he asked to watch it not two seconds earlier, deciding he really doesn't want to go to the shops after asking all morning TO go to the shops, saying "yes daddy I'd like cornflakes" and then yelling "I DON'T WANT CORNFLAKES" after you have put them on the table. The constant "don't take your shoes off we're just about to go out, don't bang your toy against the wall you'll break it and then bang, bang , bang , bang as he continues to do it.

May be some of you don't get it but hopefully you do. When I feel I am at the end of my rope he always seems to say the cutest or funniest thing or he laughs or smiles and in a blink of an eye all that frustration disappears (until the next time of course which could be in the next few mins) and what had been an imp is all of a sudden the most beautiful boy in the world to me.

ps,just to add, been up with him since 5.30 this morning. As i have for the past 2 weeks for some odd reason he has taken to waking up between 4.30 and 6am for the last 2 weeks. Feeling somewhat frayed around the edges and struggling.

Oh my God, I've just read this thread and feel SO much better. (Sorry that everyone's adversity has cheered me so...!)My ds is 21 months old and sometimes it is like living with Sadaam Hussein, General Pinochet and Adolf Hitler in one tiny, (sometimes adorable) package.
They are tyrants - that's the bottom line, really isn't it? The story about the 3 yearold 'laughing in the face of danger' cracked me up too. Thank God for wine, caffeine and chocolate, I say.

hello everyone, I'm new to this site, but loving your stories about the terrible twos, my DD is 2 on Friday so I reckon I've got 3 calmish days left...

Anyway I just wanted to say to donbeam, is is possible that he's cold? Mine woke up 3 or 4 times a night for 2 months before Xmas til a(childless) mate asked whether she was cold.... we started putting socks on and extra layers of PJs and she doesn't wake anywhere near as often now. Feel a right plum for not working it out myself, but at least am getting a decent kip these days.

Lockets...love the story. Reminds me of my 3yr old nephew. He went to the drs with his Mum and the dr asked him what the problem was (He had earache.) George looked at him and said seriously, 'I suffer from short term memory loss!!!' Too much Finding Nemo, I think!!!

As we say in our house.

2 is preparation because 3 is an education !!

I definiitly need to be on this thread!

I started another thread on this before I saw this one. Here's my post:

A friend's ds recently bit the daughter of another friend at a party (luckily my ds was home with dh). He was jealous because she was sitting on the lap of another adult and I guess getting more attention. Anyway, he rushed at her gritting his teeth, and latched on for dear life. He had to be literally pulled off of her and, though he didn't break the skin, he left very deep marks. I was horrified and thought it was really OTT behavior. Another friend (who is childless BTW) said I was overreacting and most children do this. So, was I wrong?

What do you say, ladies?

Hi halcat, thanks for your tip but i thought of that a couple of months ago and bought some all in one fleece PJ's. He was really really horrendous and i was going in to him every hour or so back then. After we got the sleeping bag type affair he did indeed sleep a bit better.
I have a feeling that his early waking may be due to either teeth or quite simply habit.
Im going to leave him to moan for a bit tonight and see if he goes off after a while.
Thanks for answering me any way, i appreciate it

Depends how old the biter was, Jab'wocky. Most children have a biting phase at some point, what really matters is how it's dealt with to keep the phase as short as possible.

DD is sweetly playing with her animals on my lap (awwwww...)
Having whined for 20 minutes earlier demanding that I feed her tea (she still hasn't eaten, of course).

He turned 3 the first of December. His father told him to apologize but this is not his first physical attack on other children and my observation is that he believes having to apologize is an easy price to pay for bullying the other children (which he clearly seems to enjoy).

I think at 3 it is pretty dreadful - the child is old enough to know its wrong. Makes you wonder what parental discipline is like. If my child did that to another I would tell them off very severely and march them straight home.

If the child was a very young toddler however (say 13/14 months) my reaction may be different

My dd is going through a biting phase - it happens when she doesn't get what she wants. The other day I was tidying up and she wanted some grapes told her in a minute so she bit me. I put her in the naughty girls corner where she cried and said sorry. Then went into dh and bit him. he had two tiny teeth marks on his leg. Then she bit week old ds's fingers to see if he would cry as her dolly didn't - not surprisingly he did! Again she went into naughty girls corner. then yesterday i pick her up from nursery (she still goes 2 days even though i'm on maternity for continuity purposes, and to give me some time with babe) they tell me she bit twice! Once was alittle girl, who had something my dd wanted, and was refusing to give to her so she bit her, and when member of staff went to tell dd off she bit her as well. Nursery made her sit out and have some quiet time. I hope this phase doesn't last long. She's 2 in two weeks so obviously the terrible two's came early! Trantrums cos we don't want a bath, the tantrums cos we don't want to get out of the bath. Tantrums because mummys putting the wrong shoes on! Tantrums because mummy's helping her and 'Gracie do it', tantrums cps Gracie can't bloody well do it! I feel like banging my head against a brick wall. That's what i'm metrphorically doing anyway. Sorry rambling - made me feel better though!

She is beautiful though! Even if she can be a royal pain in the arse. When she smiles and say lolv oooh mummy lots n lots (translated love you). I melt and she forgiven .... until next time!

My dd and her best friend at nursery seem to be going through a bit of a phase. One minute they are playing happily together, next moment it's handbags at dawn!! - biting, slapping and hair pulling. then they kiss and make up!! - bizaare!!! Apparently it's usually the best friend that starts it but yesterday it seems that dd got her own back and started the hair pullng thing!! It seems to be mainly over babies (read dollies) and handbags and who has what!!! Not sure what to do really - my instinct is to just let them get on with it and hopefully out of their systems with tickings off re. biting/hair pulling etc are not nice things to do, blah blah blah. Get on well wit b/fs Mum and we have talked about it and neither of us particulary concerned that it's a bullying issue. BF has a new baby brother so I guess that explains some of her issues.

Zebra my ds is 2.9 and has just started the 'feed me' stage. He won't eat otherwise. Just sits there whining 'feed me like a baby mummy'

Why oh why?...........

my 19 month old used to sleep through the night in her cot until a few months ago when she went through teething pains and would not sleep in her cot but in bed with mum and dad. Problem is she will not sleep in her cot anymore. Any advice.

Pm get her a bed. Start up a bedtime routine (if necessary mum and dad) give her warm milk, read a story and leave in a night light (lava lamps work really well cos they can watch pretty patterns!) tell her shes a big ggirl now in her big bed, with a 'pretty' light. If she gets up put a stairgate in front of her door. Leave her to scream if necessary if she starts after you have both said goodnight. After 15 minutes if till screaming go up give her a cuddle put her back in bed and leave. repeat if necessary. If she wakes in night go in calm her down give her a cuddle and put her back in bed. reassure her tell her your in the next room etc. What ever you do not - don't take her into your bed. I did this with my dd (once when she changed from cot to bed and again recently when she was refusing to go to bed and wanted 'mummy's bed'. Any way just a few ideas - that may work! Good luck.

Northener.....my ds is 2.9yrs too and wants feeding all the time! I am too soft with him and give in as I cant stand mealtimes being so long! Even with Rice Krispies! He will eat some and get one on his lip and say'Help!' so that I wipe it away!!!!

Am going to my parents for a week soon and I know they will have something to say about it! Do you feed your ds or does he just not eat?

Funny thing is is that ds can eat sweets and icecream by himself!!

Hate to tell you this but I still get phases of 'feed me I'm a baby...' and dd is 4 in April

Ds is 17 months and will say "bottle' "Baby" which means "Give me a bottle and hold me like a baby". I always give in because it's such a sweet feeling to hold him and feed him like that...

So what do I do with a nearly 3 yr old who wont eat by himself??

I have to say my 2 year old is not too bad - if you excuse the fact that he expresses his opinion of my culinaray abilities by throwing his plate on the floor. Really theres only so much he can do when the only words he will say are Mum, Dad & Narna although he does do a rather ear piercing "im not happy" squeal.

But I have to say the tortuous threes are definately followed by the foul fours!! DS 1 feels the need to shout loudly "mummys got a willy" every time we use a public toilet not to mention turning his back on me & slapping & wiggling his bottom at me when I say something he doesnt like. Yes I WAS concerned at first but just watch Spud on Bob the Builder!! I now tell him its not clever & ignore him.

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