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2 and a half year described as a thug by play group leader. Don't know what to do with him anymore.

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worriedashamed · 14/05/2008 20:38

Ds is usually lovely at home, very loving and cheerful. And is usually good when out and about with me and dp (the odd tmeper tantrum excluding). However, we are having huge problems with him when he goes to playgroup (once a week) and when he is at the childminders.

It seems as if he doesn't like other children and often lashes out at them (hits, kicks, bites and now it seems he's started to spit as well.)

It's come to a bit of a head this week when he was described as a thug. And while I do take offence at the terminology used, I can see their point. During htis session he apparaently deliberately soiled himself - something he has never, ever done before.

Dp and I are thinking of removing from the pre-school as I don't think ds is ready yet for this level of interaction.

I'm devastated and just don't know how to help him. I'm a teacher, and am completely ashamed of his behaviour and that despite clear boundries, routines and expectations, ds is like this.

He has a good diet, sleeps well, is potty trained and has a consistant approach to discipline from both dp and myself.

Ds has now started to hit me too, when he does this I say no firmly and put him down and walk away. And while I can do this at home, out in public it is a bit harder. If I remove him from another child he has hurt, he hits me instead, whilst screaming blue murder.

I'm rambling now, but just don't know what to do.
I can't believe we have turned out to be such rubbish parents.

Anyone going through anything similiar? Or any advice? I've named changed btw, as I've several real life friends who know who I am, and can't face the embarresment of it all.

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booge · 16/05/2008 21:42

Our DS was like that between 18 months and 2.5, it was a phase, he's very gentle if a triffle disobedient now.

OrangeKnickers · 16/05/2008 22:11

The advice you mention above is from Dr Chrisopher Green's book Toddler Taming. I don't have a toddler (yet) but it's a great book. It's top of the mumsnet book reviews.

Janni · 16/05/2008 22:27

You poor, porr thing. What horrible judgments for the preschool to make. He is obviously completely out of his depth, socially. Keep things very safe and simple - a familiar routine/carer. The rest will come. He does not yet have to deal with these group situations. You will know when he is ready.

Give him lots of love, affection and firm boundaries about what you expect of him and avoid situations which stress him out, for now, until he gets his confidence back.

MadamePlatypus · 16/05/2008 22:47

"deliberately soiled himself" at 2.6? They called him a "thug"? I would be far more worried about he nursery's behaviour than your son's.

jollydo · 16/05/2008 23:59

I also recommend the book 'toddler taming' - it reassures you that toddlers behave like toddlers and also gives some good advice.

cadelaide · 17/05/2008 00:02

haven't read thread yet but you should change yr name.....don't be ashamed

cadelaide · 17/05/2008 11:02

Good Morning Worried!

I've been thinking about this one. I really don't think you should be calling yourselves rubbish parents, not yet anyway, reassess when he's 18 or so.

He's still very young, just a baby really, and I wonder whether you're looking ahead too much? I did that, DS1 was very rough (especially with his sister) for ages and ages and it seemed like nothing we did made any difference. Our punishments got harsher and harsher (a mistake i now realise, calmness and consistency is the key) because we panicked and thought we were raising a deliquent.

He's now nearly 9 and an absolute love, very gentle (although still prone to the odd violent outburst!) and very anxious to do the right thing. A bit too anxious sometimes, and so of course my parental guilt tells me we were too hard on him.

I think some children just take a long, long time to understand that hitting etc is unacceptable, especially boys. If DS2 is "punchy" (he's 21m) I shall just repeat, repeat, repeat, calmly and firmly until it sinks in.

In our area kids don't legally have to start school until the Sept after they are 5, although pretty much everyone starts after they're 4 so they go through the Reception year. Are you sure he has to start in Sept, because it sounds like he may not be ready and I don't believe in the "preparation" theory?. If they're not ready no amount of preparation will change that, and it may even make things worse.

Don't worry, worriedashamed, and please, please don't be ashamed. I bet he's bloody lovely.

Phew! That was undoubtedly my longest post ever!

cornsilk · 17/05/2008 11:07

Haven't read all the thread but am so cross for you. Your poor little boy. That place sounds awful. If a child is 'deliberately' soiling himself they should be asking themselves why they aren't meeting his needs, not labelling him as a 'thug.'

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