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Does this sound like ADHD to you? 5yr old girl

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MoOonlightDreams · 07/12/2024 20:41

My almost 5 yr old D/D has always been 'full of beans' and bright but to be honest, challenging to parent.

Behaviours that we put down to 'toddler-isms' dont seem to be going anywhere. She started school in September and things seem to be getting worse by the week. We are exploring the possibility that she might need some additional support and that there may be neurodivergence.

Throughout the years the behaviours have included-

  • advanced speech as a toddler but now has speech delay requiring speech therapy.
  • constant talking
  • Asks questions, gets an answer but it doesnt seem to register then asks the same question again
  • since dropping her naps as a toddler would never fall asleep/relax on sofa regardless of how tired. She will just keep going and going. Only exception to this is if strapped in car seat.
- humming/singing whilst doing activities (although this seems to be reducing)
  • very rarely plays independently and if we are not playing with her she just follows myself/husband round the house despite a playroom and bedroom full of toys.
  • difficulty waiting turns in conversations
  • when tired/tantrumming repeats the same question repeatedly
  • sensory issues with hair washing, brushing (i use a tangle brush with oil yet she says im hurting her even if im sectioning her ponytail into a plait with my fingers) and getting water on her face. (Weirdly this is not an issue during swimming lessons)
  • low tolerance to pain, will have an unnecessary reaction to minor injuries for example hysteria about removing a plaster.
  • upset by loud noises (especially hand dryers in toilets but can tolerate them)
  • sensitive to temperature in bath, often says its too hot.
  • sensitive to some clothes. Complains that things are itchy, often has issues with shoes.
  • often climbing on/jumping off furniture
  • picking her nails and lip constantly
  • sensitive to perceived negativity, having a lot of playground dramas and gets offended easily.
  • emotional outbursts and temper tantrums
  • has little awareness when hugging, will repeatedly squeeze too tight/hug round neck
  • needs snacks constantly, doesnt seem to feel full.
  • Night wakings

However-
-She could sit through a whole film at cinema (rarely can if at home) or pantomime show at theatre.

  • can colour and draw for ages with no distraction
  • can take turns and wait in games
  • Is not impulsive or a risk taker
  • Will happily sit and do school work, according to her teacher is getting on fine academically.
  • friendly and sociable

The tantrums and dramatics are what we are struggling with the most at the moment and we are finding it increasingly difficult to know how to discipline her as nothing seems to work.. she simply does not listen..today she threw a chair at her Dad. I would say she has a screaming tantrum 4 times a day on average with throwing things/kicking doors etc.

We are always conscious to consider overtiredness/illness/hunger and give leeway for that but I just feel like her outbursts dont seem to be in line with her peers.

Does anyone with experience of ADHD find any of these characteristics are relatable? Or are these just age appropriate behaviours?

Thanks

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lollydu · 07/12/2024 21:12

I was just coming on to write my own post about my 5 year old daughter (in year 1) as I have the same concerns. You could have written my post about my daughter.

I think I will still write my own post as I need to get it all out and don't want to hijack your thread but I'm at the point at the moment where I just feel like I'm being gaslit by school and actually also my partner as he just doesn't want to hear it. I have a late ADHD diagnosis as an adult but I wasn't anywhere near as explosive and emotionally volatile as she is as a child, I was more inattentive and daydreamy. She is violent, still pinching, hitting, elbowing, smacking, throwing. I have a son who is 13 and has never had any of these issues so I don't feel it is a parenting problem, lack of boundaries etc and letting her get away with murder, i feel like it's the total opposite, our lives are pretty miserable at the moment because we are constantly having meltdowns when we try to put boundaries in place and tell her no.

She is fine at school. I went in for a meeting with her teacher and the senco a couple of months ago and they said the only signs they see of any sort of anxiety or stimming at school is the fact she chews her sleeve or her hair (comes home and her entire sleeve up to her elbow is soaked) so we now send her in with a chewy, looks like a Lego block round her neck. This has helped with the chewing of the hair and sleeve but nothing else. She has been receiving Christmas cards from all her classmates last week and I've just realised she seems to be quite behind with her handwriting, it's illegible a lot of the time, no gaps between words, and she's still wet at night. Her temperament is so volatile I feel like I'm just forever walking on eggshells around her so as not to set her off. She can be set off by the most seemingly minor things, for example at bedtime tonight she decided she wanted a plastic happy meal toy last seen or heard from 6-12 months ago and probably in the bin, cue an hour of screaming and almost hysteria, no amount of reasoning helps. I'm so scared she's internalising all these negative messages she's getting from us that her behaviour is bad, my partner is very much authoritative and doesn't stand for it whereas I try to understand and empathise, but being neurodiverse myself sometimes I am pushed to my absolute sensory limits and I lose it too and end up shouting, so I understand how she feels when she can't control herself and her emotions.

I feel so alone with it. I'm scared for her because I know what it was like for me as a girl with ADHD through secondary school. I'm scared me and my partner are not on the same page, I'm scared to mention I want to get her assessed because I don't think we will have any support from the school or from my partner. She goes to a school with a dedicated autism unit but their hands are very full with obviously neurodiverse children with quite obvious needs, feel like my daughter is just massively falling through the gaps and I'm just pretty hopeless about the whole thing.

Sorry I have no useful advice. Just wanted you to know I'm right there with you and I hope one day ADHD in women and girls won't be such a fight to be heard and understood by those who should be able to help us.

MoOonlightDreams · 10/12/2024 17:10

@lollydu

Thank you for taking the time to share this, it sounds incredibly tough. It's so hard when you’re trying to navigate your child's needs while feeling unsupported, both from school and your partner. I totally understand the frustration of feeling like you’re in this alone, especially when it seems like people don’t fully get it.

I can completely relate when you said you were pushed to your sensory limits and end up shouting- same here. It feels like such a vicious cycle as I am not demonstrating emotional regulation. I have autism in my family and the more research I am doing the more I wonder if I have traits myself. Definitely looking to invest in some loop earplugs to help cope with the meltdowns.

We actually had a meeting at the school yesterday with the SENCO lead due to her speech delay and they have made a referral to something called 'My Care Bridge' to assess for ADHD I am not sure if this is an option for your daughter? They said it will be a long wait but worth getting the ball rolling.

Like you, I dont have much advice to give either but know you are not alone with it. Hope you are able to get some support/advice soon.

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