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Out of control behaviour - 4 year old

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tellmeaboutit546 · 11/08/2024 14:28

Hi all,

Looking for some advice or reassurance please as I feel my DS's outbursts are becoming out of control.

For context, DS is 4 years old, he is incredibly intelligent and is my best friend.
There are no developmental concerns but a few things we've noticed (which could be normal):
A) DS is quite outgoing at nursery. However this hasn't always been the case. Our nursery key worker, whos now left, recommended HV involvement as she'd often find DS sitting in corners or small spaces when things were becoming too much. This was never flagged by other staff and nothings been mentioned since key worker left.
B) DS hates loud noises. We worked on this and he was great with them but has now gone backwards. Loud noises result in DS panicking and a full blown meltdown - no rhyme or reason as to why this happened, and cannot stand to be near a leaf blower despite his gardening obsession.
C) DS exposes himself at nursery. We've worked with the nursery on this and it's still a problem. Nursery have found him hiding away with his friends exposing himself and he's fully aware it's not something he should be doing.

The main issue is his outbursts. Today I've cried multiple times from his outburst which stemmed from me asking him not to jump on the bed. I've been hit, kicked, punched, my arms are bruised from bites (8+ bites on each arm), toys thrown at me, bedroom trashed, and him trying to push me down the stairs.
I've tried talking through it, shouting, distracting, loving him, rewarding good behaviour and doubling down on good behaviour = good things, taking away toys and none have helped. His rage feels impossible to break through and today I've had to resort to physically restraining him to reduce the injuries I sustain from his outbursts.
I don't know what to do anymore and I feel like I'm failing as a parent. I love my son dearly but I don't like this version of him.
I've read books, blogs and articles and desperately tried all avenues suggested but haven't had any success.
Just to note, HV did test for autism off the back of the key worker recommendation but stated he was too advanced in development for it to be autism and we wouldn't fit the criteria for a referral so I assume it's not that.
Please help an emotionally drained mum.

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tellmeaboutit546 · 11/08/2024 18:07

Bumping please

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SparklyPlumFish · 11/08/2024 18:31

I can relate to this with my daughter who is of a similar age.
It is emotionally draining and I end up crying because she can be vile to me and it's awful, it makes me dread when she is older.
Only towards me, not her dad, people try to tell me it's because I'm the mum and she has more of an emotional connection with me so she's testing how far that can go (I call bullshit on that cos sometimes I swear she gets a kick out of it all).
It can also come out of the blue, where we have weeks of great behaviour and then a period of horrible behaviour that makes me think she's going to develop oppositional defiance disorder.
We're going through assessments for neurodevelopmental disorders, but I don't think that it'll do anything even if there was a diagnosis.
Things I've observed, she's intellectually bright and advanced in some areas (that's not just me, school have said she's working well above in some areas), but her emotional intelligence is nowhere near that, and I do wonder if she struggles to match expectations of the two from people (including us at times) because she speaks as though she's a lot older.
She can also struggle with changes, and given it's the school holidays that's quite a big change.
I unfortunately don't have any miracle answers for you, hopefully someone on here will. But I know how shit it can feel and I'm sorry that you are going through it, and I really hope it gets better for you.

tellmeaboutit546 · 11/08/2024 18:44

Hey @SparklyPlumFish
Thanks for replying, I can totally relate to this. I feel like everything you've said stacks up with what I'm going through. I get the brunt of it, dad does get the occasional tantrum but nowhere near what I have.
I also feel like DS gets a kick out of it. I asked him to stop throwing his toys at me today and his response was "are you going to start crying."
So sorry to hear you're going through it, I know how difficult and upsetting it is.
I hope you find your answers and get the support/help you need as I know I feel like I'm drowning and dread time alone with DS knowing what's to come.
Sending you lots of strength and hugs, you've got this. Xxx

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tellmeaboutit546 · 12/08/2024 11:43

Shamelessly bumping again

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Rhode90 · 12/08/2024 20:43

I don’t have much advice but I just wanted to let you know we’re in a similar boat. I’ve just wrote quite a similar post too asking for experience/advice.

My DS (4) is very intelligent, very outgoing and is mostly a typical 4 year old, but some of his behaviours do seem really ‘odd’ compared to his friends. He loves his own company and has a very vivid imagination, to the point he seems to merge real life with it and doesn’t know where either begins or ends.

He seems hell bent on breaking things when he’s in a particularly bad mood, trying to harm himself or me (or his dad), and it’s so tough to know the next steps. For us different approaches work on different days, it seems a total guessing game each day. He starts school next month and I’m worried what impact the change will have on him.

tellmeaboutit546 · 12/08/2024 21:03

Thanks so much @Rhode90
I really sympathise, it's incredibly hard.
I'm really worried about school and also worried about sending him in to nursery knowing how violent he's becoming, not that they've flagged it but something I'll be flagging when he's next in as I'd hate for a child to be faced with his rage.
DS certainly loves his own company too and gazes awkwardly at others playing but that could be a confidence thing.
Today has truly been hit & miss - I've doubled down on sticking to my punishments as I know I often say things and don't follow through so that's definitely been a learning curve for us both. His outbursts have been fairly limited today, not as bad as they were yesterday, although DS did state he was going to punch me in the face, smack me and pull my hair but all in all it's a good day considering I've only been smacked/punched a few times.
I just don't understand if this is learnt behaviour, I have no idea how he knows about punching people in the face...
I hope things go a little more smoothly for you and you find the magic cure. It's really tough. Sending you strength and hugs xx

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