Is this normal bf baby poop?!

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8 week olds poo is looking like it has mucus in

I didnt breastfeed my first so not sure if this looks normal?

Apart from the usual gassiness of an 8 week old and some slight baby acne still she doesn’t have any other symptoms of an allergy

Goes regularly once or twice a day, sometimes once every 2/3 days!

Is it a one off or there are many mucus nappies lately? Gassiness should resolve for the most part by 6 weeks and completely by 12 weeks in a breastfed baby. Is it bad gas? Waking baby up?

The only way to test for CMPA is to exclude dairy (and possibly soy) for at least 3-4 weeks and then challenge it by eating a yogurt and watching for symptoms.

Hopefully it's not CMPA and just normal mucus from runny nose.

My DS had this and did indeed have CMPA. Slowly growing out of it now. Dr said no evidence that excluding dairy has much of an impact. I reduced my dairy consumption and then after a few months increased with no problems. DS on oat milk at one.

@mommyandmore did you find reducing dairy helped though? I feel like giving up breastfeeding if I’m the reason she’s having these issues! I hardly eat dairy as it is so maybe I need to cut it out completely 😫

I felt the same way but in complete honesty, if you fear your LO might have CMPA then BF is a wonderful thing for them. You will be protecting from any other potential allergies & building their exposure to a variety of foods too. I went dairy free for a couple of months and then reintroduced when his symptoms lessened. It wasn't that bad and lots of alternatives out there now. I do also think with BF babies they are exposed to lots of other foods so their little systems are really working hard. I also know that BF poop is different to formula but because my LO had CMPA don't have much to offer. We had reflux, colic, lots of tummy pain (knees up after feeding etc) AND lots of mucous in nappies. So other things on top of the nappies.

Yep, for us he was a different baby within a few days of cutting dairy and soy. So much happier and sleeping better. And breastmilk had all the magical stuff that helped his gut to heal from the allergy damage. Also, breastfeeding is so soothing it acted as a pain relief when he was still recovoring or I had a slip up.

Do you eat much soy? Around half of CMPA babies also react to soy, it's in so much stuff.

How is she? Is she crying and gassy/waking?

Facebook group Breastfeeding with CMPA and other allergies is great. Also this website https://dilanandme.com/

@Wossupdoc shes probably having the worst night we’ve had yet

went to sleep for 2 hours at 10:30pm then woke up, gassy, farting. Ended up putting her on the boob to try and settle her. She’s pretty much been on the boob since with periods of crying and screaming in between (both of us)

I’m just sat up in bed with her now asleep on me so no sleep for me tonight

ive never looked into what I eat in that much depth - I know I avoid dairy anyway so I have minimal already though I did have a burger yesterday and partner did put cheese on it…..would it make her bad this quickly though?!

she had another bad ish nappy where it looked full of thicker mucus this time

I’m just so worried about her

im sat here thinking crying wanting to just quit breastfeeding. It’s all gone so down hill the last couple of days. Doesn’t help that I have a 3 year old also so need to be up bright and early to take him to nursery

Oh no! That does sound like a reaction from the cheese. The bun likely had soy in it and maybe the burger too! Could of course be a coincedence also.

I’m just sat up in bed with her now asleep on me so no sleep for me tonight

Have you tried safe bedsharing? That's the only way I could sleep with my velcro/CMPA baby. He would often be latched on a lot of the night but I mastered the side lying position and I'd sleep through the feeds.

It sounds so hard. Can you go back to sleep after nursery drop off?

im sat here thinking crying wanting to just quit breastfeeding. It’s all gone so down hill the last couple of days

With the CMPA type suspicions or other aspects of breastfeeding have gone downhill?

Only you know what's best for you. But if you're wanting to quit solely based on the allergy stuff, most find breastfeeding is the easiest option. There are hypoallergenic formulas, but there is usually a long and bumpy road to finding the right one, getting the baby to accept it because it's not very tasty, getting the GP on board (sadly they get very little training on this topic). Breastfeeding is also incredible at healing the gut.

👆 I second all of this. It took weeks for LO to accept a prescribed formula which I ended up not giving becoase it was so gross. If you're able to BF I'd strongly recommended continuing. If you really can't, there are options but sadly not as easy as a quick switch. Not in my experience anyway. It will be okay. One day at a time xx

@Wossupdoc yes with the suspicions. I feel like I’m failing and making her poorly. I think I’m just tired. I put her back in her cot last night and she did settle until around 6am so at least I got a couple of hours. I’d rather not bed share right now and add another worry to the mix!

In regards to my diet, would I generally see a reaction that quickly then?! So if I’m super strict and eat no dairy or soy today she should be marginally better?

@mommyandmore thanks for the support - I’ll try and carry on with it. It’s just rough x

There haven't been many studies but this small one shows that the milk/soy proteins can leave some women's systems within as quickly as 6 hours. But I think it's generally considered to take at least a few days/weeks for most
https://bump2babynutrition.com/cmpa-breastfeeding/ 
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I feel like I’m failing and making her poorly. I think I’m just tired
You're doing so well, you're figuring this out early on and doing all you can to help her. You're providing so much comfort and there is still a huge long list of amazing benefits she's getting from your breastmilk. Sleep is everything!

If you're keen to explore bedsharing and it's only worry that's holding you back, there's some great evidence showing how it's safer even than a cot for breastfeeders. A breastfeeding person's body is producing incredible wakeful hormones that put you in a permanant state of awareness of your baby even while you are sleeping. If you are breastfeeding, following the 'safe sleep seven' guidelines - sober, non-smoking, not on medication etc., you WILL NOT squish your baby. That's why SIDs doesnt exist in countries where bedsharing is the norm - a cot can allow a baby too fall asleep too deeply, whereas being close to mum they are constantly stimulated and stay in a less deep sleep state.

There's been some great research on this done by Dr. Mckenna in his sleep lab
https://cosleeping.nd.edu/

If you haven't already and can crack the side lying position it is life changing. Even just for resting if you're not keen on bedsharing (but remove pillows and duvets so it's safe in case you accidentally fall asleep). Or leave them suckling and you both sleep while they feed - my CMPA baby wanted to suckle constantly when his tummy was hurting, this was how we survived it.

@Wossupdoc thanks for the support!

Im a few days in to completely dairy free and whilst she’s still gassy she did have a poo the other day and it looked much more ‘normal’ to me and her skin looks clearer (she had baby acne on her head) could be a coincidence cos she’s getting older! She hasn’t got a very good latch so does take a fair bit of air in and I have ‘fizzy boobs’ as my boyfriend calls it, so my letdown is crazy fast and I produce way too much. So she takes a lot in very very quickly. I’m not going to quit breastfeeding but I have booked an appt with an osteo for in a couple of weeks time as she doesn’t have a tongue tie but her latch on one side is shocking compared to the other which makes them think she’s got a lot of tension from birth! So that should help with the gassiness if we can get the latch better. I’m gonna stay dairy free as like I said before I don’t really have it anyway so I’m just being a tad stricter

Reading into some things a manic fast letdown and oversupply can cause all sorts of issues with poop and gassiness also, but I might as well cut out what I can! I’m in the mind frame of I’ll do anything to keep her happy and if I’ve tried everything and we’re still having issues then I can confidently say I tried!

Lucky baby! You're giving it your all. Osteo sounds like a great idea. Have you tried rugby hold on the dodegy side in the meantime? It means she can feed lying on her same side if that makes sense.

All of the symptoms could be due to poor latch and oversupply! But sounds like dairy could also feasibly be the culprit. Keep an eye on soy too just in case.

Assuming you've read all this but hand expressing before a feed can help reduce impact of fast let down, as can more reclined positions. Flipple on youtube is a great technique to improve latch. Good luck!

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