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Help - teacher told DS's class to retaliate against boy with AS (long)

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Cocobear · 13/03/2008 21:34

A 4 year old boy in DS's nursery class has had a preliminary diagnosis of AS (or possibly autism, or possibly something else altogether. We are in Ghana. He is going to UK for evaluation next month.)

He's a sweet little guy, very cuddly, always smiling, but also strokes the other children, hangs on them, pulls hair. He's not mean, but his attention can be a bit much for them. His communication skills are not great, so it can be difficult for the other children to understand him and play with him.

This afternoon a group of us mums and kids were having a little playgroup, when one of DS's little classmates comes running out of the playroom fussing, as the little boy had pulled her hair. He followed her and pulled her hair again. So DS comes out, steps up to boy and yells, "No!" and hits the boy in the chest. DS is the world's most non-aggressive child, and I've never seen him hit anyone before. Oi no, I say, apologise and get yourself over here for a chat. (The boy's mum had also pulled him aside for a no-hair-pulling talk.) DS very upset, and tells me, but Mommy teacher said we should do to X whatever he does to us.

Maybe he misunderstood the teacher, I think to myself. But another mother overheard him and said, no, my son came home yesterday and told me she'd said, if he pulls your hair, pull his. If he hits you, hit him back.

!!

So, two questions. What to do with the teacher? And what suggestions do you all have on helping DS and his classmates get along better with the little boy. Clearly that guidance won't be coming from his teacher!

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cory · 13/03/2008 21:39

You know, I think this may actually be a case of seeing the headteacher. The school should have a policy. It's about helping all the children to deal with the situation, the teacher isn't doing anyone any favours. And it's going to be tremendously hard for your ds to confront the teacher on this one; that needs to come from above.

Cocobear · 13/03/2008 21:52

Trust me, the school will not have a policy. There are few to no written policies about anything. But yes, I reckon the headteacher may be the way to go. Good idea.

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suedonim · 13/03/2008 21:53

Crikey. Is the teacher local or an expat?

Cocobear · 13/03/2008 22:01

The teacher is an expat, as is the head. But it's a DIY society here, and I guess I need some guidance on how to do it myself.

The little boy's poor mother was near tears, as I immediately told her what the boys had said.

I'd like to know what the school's policy SHOULD be, then I would have something to suggest to the head.

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suedonim · 13/03/2008 22:06

Assuming then that the teacher is UK trained, surely she must know that's not how things are done??? Maybe you should ask in the SN section as I'm sure they will be able to help you and suggest ideas to put to the school. Poor you, having to deal with this.

Cocobear · 13/03/2008 22:20

Good thinking Sue, have reposted in SN. See you on the mozzie nets thread...

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suedonim · 13/03/2008 22:31
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Mamazon · 13/03/2008 22:42

get yourself a copy of "my brother is different" give it to teh teacher to read to teh class.

she needs to explain that some people aren't very good at social skills (her apparently ). that sometimes people will do things that we don't like, when they do we should move away and tell teh teacher.

when they do teacher should get off her lazy arse and take this boy aside to calm himself down and explain (over and over if she needs to) that we mustn't pull hair/hang on children etc etc.

if a teacher recommended otehr kids hit my Ds i would probably smack her myself!

you could also sit down and explain about differences and the general idea of Sn to your ds. explain that some people aren't good at football, others aren't very good at playing an instrument, others just aren't very good at knowing how to behave as we would like.
explain that its not this boys fault as he just doesn't understand that he is hurting...he just wants to be friends.

Cocobear · 13/03/2008 23:00

Thanks Mamazon. The teacher is an idiot. Good idea about discussing SN with DS. I was putting it off as I wasn't sure how to phrase it, but obviously anything I say will be better than 'just hit him if he hits you'. This boy is such a dear little thing, I can't believe she said that!! His poor mother...

Anyway, I will ask idiot teacher what tactics she is using to moderate his behaviour. I have told DS to just tell the boy "Ouch. That hurts. Please don't pull my hair" and to walk away, or seek help.

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Cocobear · 13/03/2008 23:02

Thanks Mamazon. The teacher is an idiot. Good idea about discussing SN with DS. I was putting it off as I wasn't sure how to phrase it, but obviously anything I say will be better than 'just hit him if he hits you'. This boy is such a dear little thing, I can't believe she said that!! His poor mother...

Anyway, I will ask idiot teacher what tactics she is using to moderate his behaviour. I have told DS to just tell the boy "Ouch. That hurts. Please don't pull my hair" and to walk away, or seek help.

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MaryBS · 13/03/2008 23:11

That is OUTRAGEOUS what that teacher said!!! .

My son (6) has AS, and his behaviour tends to be more at the level of a 3yo, but also affected by what he sees others doing. I try not to let him get away with anything, but if I heard about a teacher doing that, I'd be straight down that school!

As for helping your DS - good for you! I think it might be worth having a word with the boy's mum asking what she'd suggest. Her son needs to learn social skills and its best done in a controlled environment with other children who are well behaved. Maybe your DS could be a role model? Supervised play between the two of them, with the other child being told firmly what is "allowed" and what isn't?

crazyjimbob · 13/03/2008 23:53

You are doing fantastic job in teaching your children to think about others and be tolerant, that is my first comment. And saying "please dont do that it hurts" etc. seem like good thing. If you can speak to childs parents and see what they are doing may also be an advantage as they may be thining along same lines as you (my sons are both special needs, oldest with Pathological Demand Avoidance Syndrome and youngest with Autistic Spectrum Disorder). They ould also be taking too much notice of teacher when she is not necessarily best person to advise (if you know what I mean!) - show them comments on here if you can which may get them thinking if they are listening too much to teacher (and not saying they bad for this - have done/ maybe still do this myself!!)

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