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Constant Crying in the evening!

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hollyboosmum · 06/03/2008 18:52

Hi
I am new to this site but need a place to talk to other mums. i have a little Girl who was born 28/12/2007 and she is a dream but at about 4pm everyday she screams constantly until 8pm when she goes to bed and settles.
i have tried everything i can think of and to no avail. i Know she is not hungry, i can change her etc but she is still really not happy. wondered if anyone else has had this problem and any tips would be greatly recieved. i am begining to dread 4pm everyday.
thanks.

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Gem83 · 06/03/2008 19:06

Hi,

im new to this site too. My daughter Grace is 17 months old and cries alot in the evenings when she hasn't had a good sleep during the day.

Does your little girl sleep during the day?

squimlet · 06/03/2008 19:11

sweetie it sounds a bit like colic to me. Have you tried the over the counter remedies like infacol and colief. if not try it please as it should help relieve your lo. they cry because they have pain in their tummies.

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hollyboosmum · 06/03/2008 19:21

hi,
thanks for the messages. She sleeps really well in the day and is a lovely happy girl. I have tried Infacol, colief and dentinox (all recommended by health visitor)and nothing seems to work. She does quieten down in the bath but when she comes out she is the same. I just worry that i am doing something wrong. my hubby works nights and leaves at 3.30 and doesn't get back till 7am so i feel a little isolated at times.

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Gem83 · 06/03/2008 19:21

yes, I agree about the colic.

I thought your daughter was born 2006 not 2007 sorry about that.

Had a very long day!

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hollyboosmum · 06/03/2008 19:22

sorry meant to say i have obviously not tried the above remedies all at the same time! x

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Gem83 · 06/03/2008 19:24

I know how you feel.

I've recently moved so am living in an area I don't know very well and have found it hard to make new friends.

Gem83 · 06/03/2008 19:26

have you tried Dr Brown bottles?

When Grace was a baby she suffered bad with colic so a friend recommended the Dr Brown bottles and they worked.

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hollyboosmum · 06/03/2008 19:32

I bought the Dr browns bottles first as my friend said that they were the best but they have not made it any better. I am now trying the Mam ones but they also don't seem to be working. I just feel like i have tried everything and nothing will help. Wondered if anyone has any tips on how to comfort her. Doctor says there is nothing wrong with her and she is gaining weight etc. Is it best to carry her around or put her down? I do feel if i put her down when she is crying that i am being a bad mother by neglecting her. Sorry to sound like a neurotic parent!
It is nice to talk about problems though.

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Bluebutterfly · 06/03/2008 19:35

I have an RL friend who took their ds for cranial osteopathy for colic and she said he settled within a week of the treatment.

info here

Ebb · 06/03/2008 19:37

Have you tried cranial osteopathy, especially if it was a natural birth? My friends baby did exactly the same thing and someone recommended the above and it really helped.

Gem83 · 06/03/2008 19:40

When Grace was a baby, as shes our first, me and my husband were exactly the same. My mother-in-law was always telling me to stop holding her too much and to leave her in her moses basket more but, I couldn't leave her to cry, I always felt well guilty.

When Grace cried constantly we used to put her over our shoulder and pat her back and walk round and round the front room.

I agree thats it's nice to talk about problems. Grace is in a cast at the moment because her hips are dislocated and it wasn't picked up at birth only when she started walking when she was 1.

39andcounting · 06/03/2008 19:41

My DS when he was a babay had reflux, not for one minute suggesting this is your problem, however I can highly recommend cranial manipulation.

It can sort an awful lot of problems and is not necessarily something that succeeds on newborns only, it can be done on older children too.

It can work out quite expensive but definately worth a shot IMO.

Does sound a bit like colic too but again IMO all the over the counter stuff is hit and miss.

Good luck, I know its exhausting.

squimlet · 06/03/2008 20:22

ok ita with the cranial osteopathy. it worked wonders for ds that and homeopathy. just brilliant

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hollyboosmum · 06/03/2008 20:31

HI
Where do you find out about the cranial osteopathy? and what do they do?
It is definatley worth a try as i am out of ideas.
What homeopathy did you use?

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squimlet · 06/03/2008 21:42

I was recommended mine by my friend. I would try asking at your health visitors and look in the yellow pages at one who is registered with the osteopathic society thingy.
When you ring make sure you say that you require infant cranial osteopathy. They will ask you all about your pregnancy and birth and how little one has been since birth. They will then gently and I mean gently feel your babys body and realign things as they should be. Birth is a very traumatic event and can misalign the body and squish it in a way which doesnt allow baby to relax and be calm.

here
is just one link

You can check your local homeopaths but again make sure you go for a registered one.
here

squimlet · 06/03/2008 21:44

here

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hollyboosmum · 06/03/2008 21:48

Thankyou all so much. I am going to try the cranial osteopath route and will let you know if it works. You are all so supportive and i feel much better having just talked to you all. XX

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PutThatInYourPipeandSmokeIt · 06/03/2008 21:57

Is her bed time at 8PM? When is her last sleep before then? It sounds to me like she's knackered and maybe a short nap at 4ish and then to bed for the night by 7pm might work?

39andcounting · 06/03/2008 22:07

hollyboosmum we went to my local chiropractor. Yes you need to ask for the cranial manipulation and they literally put their hands on the baby and feel head, neck all over really.

If they cannot do anything they should tell you there and then. Ask your Health Visitor. I think its still maybe frowned upon by the medical profession but hey if it works for you like it did for us then bunkum to the medics........

I am in Hampshire and can recommend a practice if your this way.

daydreambeliever · 06/03/2008 22:14

Hi Hollyboosmum. My DD is 8 months now but when she was younder I used to call evenings the witching hour, because she would cry and feed constantly. She was really contented the rest of the time, placid in fact. It just sort of stopped on its own tbh, we didnt really do anything particular. So sorry, Ive no suggestions other than hang in there, she will settle in a month or two Im sure.

PorridgeBrain · 06/03/2008 22:15

My DD did exactly the same except it was 4-10 pm! I tried all of the colic remedies and cranial osteopath but nothing worked, I think she just grew out of it one day. I think with some babies, it all gets a bit too much by that time of the day and they are overtired and can't settle themselves. I think my DD grew out of it at around 10 weeks. Fingers crossed its the same for you

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hollyboosmum · 07/03/2008 12:50

Thanks for all the messages. Her bedtime is 8pm and before then she usually has a sleep from about 2pm - 4pm. As soon as 4pm comes she is up and screaming. I think she wil probably grow out of it but it just seems to have been going on forever. I am going to try the osteopath route just to give it a shot and then after then we will just have to ride the storm and hopefully she will start to enjoy the evenings!
Thanks again x

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Purlease · 07/03/2008 12:57

The good news is it will pass . It can be very distressing and tiring for both of you. My daughter was the same at about 3 months. Lots of pacing around the room helps too. I was breast feeding at that stage and she was still colicy.

Sanwi · 07/03/2008 21:03

bit of a long shot, but you mentioned she quietens down in the bath - might it also be that she gets cold? DD used to have a fit every evening at 5.30 on the dot (quite literally, fine at 5.29, screaming at 5.30) and after tearing my hair out for several weeks i tried changing the heating settings, so it's nice and warm as well as keeping her off her playmat etc where the draught gets her

admittedly, she didn't cry for 4 whole hours, but her crying coincided with a noticeable drop in temperature and making sure she's really warm helped

amidaiwish · 07/03/2008 21:25

both my DDs cried for hours every evening, it is exhausting, but this time will pass. Suddenly you will have your evenings back and heave a huge sigh of relief.

if she was like that from birth, then cranial osteopathy will probably help..

with DD1 i found a swing chair really helped a lot. (DD2 hated it though). we just had to carry them around all evening - have you got a sling to make it easier for you?

or have you tried having the TV off, just some relaxing music in the background (i know a TV makes it more bearable for you, but i found no TV did help sometimes).

have you tried letting her sleep more in the day, mine were always worse when tired. Don't worry about a "routine" - keeping them awake in the day, you'd be better off up more during the night if you weren't having those exhausting evenings.

at the end of the day, don't feel like you're doing anything wrong (i did), it's just the way some babies are! it will soon pass.

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