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fluffycauliflower · 05/03/2008 19:47

Hello,

I'm having real trouble with one of my children. I want to find a psychologist or parenting expert I can talk things through with. I've tried the health visitor, but they don't know anyone for the over 5's. I feel a terrible failure. I live in Watford. Has anyone got any recomendations?

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Psychomum5 · 05/03/2008 19:49

what trouble are you having tho?????

and what is the age of the child???

no psychologist, but as much info as possible will help.

fluffycauliflower · 05/03/2008 19:56

My daughter is 7. She is rude and argumentative. She has occasional tantrums, maybe once every three weeks. She's the middle child. I've been wanting advice for years, but I don't know where to get it. We went on a parenting course, which wasn't very well run. Really I want to talk one to one with someone.

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DiscoDizzy · 05/03/2008 20:34

Sorry no advice as only have 4 yr old, but bumping for you.

jekyllandhyde · 05/03/2008 20:42

hi fluffycauliflower, re a child psychologist if you have serious concerns you would be able to ask for an assessment with your local child psychology service through your gp. however there is likely to be a waiting list, and the gp would probably need to know the details to screen whether it is necessary or not

fluffycauliflower · 05/03/2008 20:43

I want to see someone privately. Want I really want is advice for me, not an assessment for my daughter, and I don't want any of this going on her record.

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jekyllandhyde · 05/03/2008 20:44

there would likely be a child/adolescent psychology service which would take referrals for children up to 16 years i think. best ask your gp?

Catzy · 05/03/2008 20:45

My friend got a referral through her GP but it took a while.

Have you spoke to her school?

jekyllandhyde · 05/03/2008 20:46

ah i see. sorry not sure what is the best option then.

Hassled · 05/03/2008 20:51

I was sufficiently concerned about my DD when she was 10 (this was on the back of a split from her father when she was 5, me meeting DH and then having another child when she was 9, plus not really fitting in at school - her behaviour was awful and she was very unhappy) that I went to see my GP. He spoke to something called the Family Support Unit (part of Social Services) who sent out a lovely woman who came and talked to both of us, once a month over a period of about 9 months. It didn't sort everything overnight by any means, and at 18 DD is still hard work, but it certainly helped. Google Family Support Unit + your local Council and see if anything appears.

To be honest "rude and argumentative" sounds pretty standard for a lot of 7 year old girls. Boys, IME (I have 3 boys) are so much more straightforward, both in themselves and in their dealings with others. How is she at school? Is there someone there you could talk to?

soph28 · 05/03/2008 20:53

A lot of children are rude and argumentative so it must be a bit more than that?

Is it more advice on how to cope with her behaviour you are looking for or are you worried she has issues which are causing her behaviour?

mummyoffrankie · 05/03/2008 21:19

my 7yo dd and most of her peers are rude and argumentative...is it more serious or are you beating yourself with a stick for no good reason?

you are not a failure since you obviously care enough to seek help. if you give a little more info you might get some really great and helpful advice on mn.

you would certainly get reassurance regarding what is 'normal' behaiviour and what is truly worrying enough to require professional guidance.

fluffycauliflower · 06/03/2008 13:05

Hello,

Thankyou for all your messages. I'll tell you a bit more about it. She's generally okay at school, one or two issues, but nothing major, she's a high achiever who could do better if she tried. At home she has good days. On other days I feel that I constantly have to tell her off for little things, I might have to ask her to do something 5 times before she does it. She can be quite rude. If I say that she is being rude she will say, "you're rude". She had a friend over to play yesterday who looked a bit surprised at how my daughter was behaving. I don't usually feel that I have much control over her. Another mother recently told me that she doesn't want my daughter to come to her house to play with her daughter. Then there are the times that my daughter really blows. She can get really angry and have kind of tantrums over something little like not being able to find a t-shirt. She used to scream and hit me, but has stopped hitting me now.

I do feel such a terrible mother. When she blows I usually feel like crying. She's the middle child, and I feel that it's because of that. I don't have much support, and latley have been feeling really bitter about my mother not helping me out. The bitter feelings are sort of eating me up. What I feel that I need is a strategy to deal with her that I can feel confident about. A friend of a friend saw a psychologist who set her up with a program whereby good behaviour was rewarded with 'mummy time'. I'd like to do something like that, but I think that I need to talk things through with someone.

I need to try and remember that she is a little child who wants my approval, not a little monster. I think that I need to always be positive with her, not say things like 'you're being rude', but try to say positive things, but it's hard when I start feeling angry.

All I want to be is a good mother, I feel so terrible that I don't seem to be succeeding.

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titchy · 06/03/2008 13:23

Not sure I like the idea of good behaviour being reward with mummy time - the emphasis should be the other way round, i.e. mummy time is always given, unless the behaviour is very bad then it is withdrawn (in very small packets of say 5 minutes).

DEFINATELY focus on the positive. Set small goals. One piece of pasta/chapter of book read to her at bedtime/10p/10mins of TV/playstation whatever it is that you think she would respond to, for half an hour (or an hour) of good behaviour. Write a list TOGETHER of what exactly both of you agree constitutes good behaviour - be very specific. If she does something you consider naughty that isn't on the list don't punish, but tell her you are adding it to the list (which is of course somewhere visible to her).

and lots and lots of attention and positive praise!

Very easy to type out here and bloody hard to actually carry through, all day everyday, especially with other things going on.

TBH her bahaviour doesn't sound particularly concerning from a child health POV - it seems to be you that needs the support from a 3rd party, so perhaps go to your GP for a referral to a counsellor or phone one up yourself. Or maybe someone like a life coach who can give you strategies for changing the way you behave.

fluffycauliflower · 06/03/2008 14:17

Thanks titch. I like the idea of sitting down together to agree what is good behaviour. And praise.

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Catzy · 06/03/2008 14:24

If you weren't a good Mother you wouldn't be looking for ways to deal with this.

Good luck

titchy · 06/03/2008 14:30

She may not like this sort of conversation, so have some ice cream or sweets on the table or sofa to keep her sitting there while you discuss it!

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