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How do you stop using night time nappies

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agaazaa · 08/11/2002 12:07

Please give me your experiences of moving off night time nappies. During the day we are completely potty trained. Just get a nappy on for bedtime.

He gets a drink of milk before bed, I guess that will have to stop?

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batey · 08/11/2002 12:39

Both my dds decided when and how really! Both did it 2 or 3 weeks after starting training in the day. They just adamantly refused to let me put it on or took it off straight away. With dd1 we lifted her onto the potty for a couple of weeks at about 10/11ish. But with dd2 didn't bother.dd1 had a couple of accidents in the first month, dd2 none at all. Dd1 was 2 1/2 and dd2 was 2 and 1m.Both my dds have always had a drink before bed even when doing this and it hasn't appeared to have had an adverse effect. With dd2,now 2 1/2 she wees before getting in the bath then again just before getting into bed, after stories etc. HTH, Good Luck.

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PamT · 08/11/2002 13:15

My boys were both completely different. DS1 was dry by day at 3 and then 3 months later I suggested trying at night. He wet the bed the first night and didn't do it again, except for the odd accident. DS2 was dry by day at 3 and 3 months but still had very soggy nappies at night. He slept so soundly that nothing ever woke him and he could lie in a wet bed all night long and never wake. I tried for a couple of weeks every now and then without much success and always had to give it up because he got urine burns on his stomach. He was almost 6 when it finally 'clicked' and he started to wake when he needed a wee. I'd even been to the doctors about it but they said not to worry until he was about 7 and then they would look at dealing with it. I wouldn't necessarily wait until they have dry nappies overnight because mine were always of the view that if they had a nappy on they would use it.

DD is an absolute nightmare, at 3 1/2 she is still not reliable during the day and I can't even contemplate trying her at night.

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Katherine · 08/11/2002 13:27

DS seemed to have dry nappies at night the week after he mastered daytimes, just before he turned 3. I decided to give it a go but he wet the bed. Put another nappy on- dry. So figured he just needed a bit of practice. We had one more accident and that was it. We alwasy do "last Wee-wees" just before bed now even if they've been recently and never have drinks near to bedtime. I think that helped. DD went dry during the day at 2.5 and I tried nights straight away too. We had a couple of acciendets but then she got the hang of it. So I think they have to have a few acidents to learn how to avoid them IYKWIM.

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SoupDragon · 08/11/2002 15:08

I used to put DS1 in pull ups for the night. Then he started aking up shouting "I need the toilet" and we 'taught' him he could just get up and go (he only bothers us now if he needs a wipe ). Eventually, his pull ups were always dry in the morning and he asked to go to bed in Big Boy Pants and it's been fine ever since.

He still has a bedtime drink of milk but we make sure he always goes to the toilet before going to bed.

He was dry by day at (mental calculation) 2 yrs 10 months and nappyless at night by about 3 yrs 6 months I guess but he'd been dry in pull ups a few months before this.

Somewhere I've read recently that if you're going to "lift" your child onto the potty/toilet in the night, make sure they're awake. Weeing whilst they're alseep is precisely the thing you're trying to stop.

HTH.

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KMG · 08/11/2002 15:09

Ds was dry daytime just before he was 2. (His choice - he just told me he was ready, and was dry immediately). But he was in bed for a long time at night, and had very soggy nappies. As PamT we tried for a week every now and then (when we had nice weather for washing bedlinen!), but I knew in my heart that he just wasn't ready. He was (and is) in bed for c.13 hrs each night, so it seemed an impossible challenge. Suddenly when he was 4.5 his nappies in the morning went from being completely sodden to completely dry. So we left the nappies off, and that was that. I would definitely recommend waiting.

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anais · 08/11/2002 19:46

My ds was 3 before I got him out of nappies during the day, but once he'd done it during the day, he was dry at night almost immediately. There were a few accidents, but they were always handled in a very matter of fact way "ok, lets change your pj's and bed clothes" and then he was back into bed. I never made a fuss about it, and it was never much of a problem. We used those care mats, which meant we didn't need to change his bed each time.

He has always had a drink at bedtime with o trouble.

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janh · 08/11/2002 20:44

Four kids in our family - four different experiences, daytimes and nighttimes - they vary so much! How old is yours, agaazaa?

Soupdragon mentioned that if you're going to lift you should make sure they're awake before they wee - it's also a good idea to do it at a different time each night so they don't get programmed.

Being dry at night is a physical developmental thing - their pituitary (I think) has to produce the hormone (vasopressin) that stops the kidneys producing urine at the same rate as during the day - or, they have to sleep lightly enough to be able to wake up to the signal from the bladder. Until they achieve one or the other (or both) they will be wet most of the time at night. (This is after they have sussed daytime control.) Most kids do get there before they start school but a surprising number don't!

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zebra · 08/11/2002 21:30

I definitely vote, too, for waiting until you have lots of dry nappies in the morning before trying the night thing. Mind you, someone I know said she offered her DD a Smartie for being drying overnight; worked a treat, apparently....

DS was dry most of the time overnight almost as soon as he was dry in the day -- 2.5 yrs. After a few months we decided that if he was willing to sit on the toilet at bedtime (contentious, DS has never been willing to sit on toilet when asked!), we would try him nappyless overnight. Pretty much that was that, but we still nappify if he's being bolshy at bedtime and won't sit on toilet. Although he's almost always dry in am, regardless.

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agaazaa · 08/11/2002 22:46

DS is 3. Didnt want to do it before as we have a new baby in the house, 1 month and didnt want him to think there were too many changes.

But he and baby seem to get along fine, no jealousy that I can see, so I thought it could be time to get on with this.

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susanmt · 09/11/2002 03:12

Just wanted to say my dd asked to go without a nappy for the first time tonight. We have put her potty beside her bed, and will see how it goes. Her night nappies have been dry for about 3-4 weeks. I am so proud of her asking to be a Big Girl. She is 2 and 9 months.

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Demented · 09/11/2002 17:04

I must be going mad, I'm sure yesterday I read this thread and there was a comment from someone that their children would just use a nappy if it was put on them so they decided to just take the nappy off at night and had success. Anyway I tried this with DS1, 3 years 10 months, as he has been dry during the day for about 1 year 4 months and I assumed I should be waiting for a dry nappy in the morning before even trying. Low and behold the bed was dry this morning, I'm still reeling from shock as his nappies were always soaking and I was certain he would have wet the bed. I hope we have cracked it and it wasn't just a one-off, fingers crossed for tonight.

As far as a night-time drink goes we stopped giving DS1 milk at night about eight months ago and he doesn't seem to miss it.

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PamT · 09/11/2002 17:23

Brilliant news demented, it was my boys who would use a nappy if they were wearing one. We never had any dry ones even when they were quite capable of going to the toilet. Fingers crossed that you have more dry nights.

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Demented · 10/11/2002 07:58

It must have been you PamT, I still can't find the comment I thought I read mind you, but never mind it seems to be working!!! Another dry night although apparently DH woke him for a pee at about midnight, must ask DH when he gets up about this.

How's it going agaazaa? We have a newish baby in the house too, although not as young as yours, DS2 is 5 1/2 months now and DS1 doesn't seem to have had much in the way of jealousy either.

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Demented · 10/11/2002 09:52

Just asked DH about this and it turns out he woke DS1 this morning for a pee and sent him down to me whilst he went back to bed. All right for some!

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LIZS · 11/11/2002 19:31

We waited until ds was telling us that he no longer wanted to wear a nappy at night - as he turned 4 - we'd also had problems with dryness in the day since we'd moved and baby sister arrived.

As he approached his 4th bday he informed us he was a big boy and would get himself up at night and has had few mishaps since. Interestingly his nappies were not yet completely dry but we suspected that he was weeing in it as he woke rather than during the night.

Many kids are not dry at night by the time they start school and I have found from our efforts to get ds dry during the day at 2 1/2 that pressure is counterproductive. I don't see the point of forcing the issue only to gain wet sheets in the middle of the night. I would wait until he is giving you clear signals that he is ready and willing.

hth

LizS

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agaazaa · 11/11/2002 22:29

Have been discussing the issue with DS now that he is big boy he can go to loo, he agrees but nappies still wet. No stress, will just keep mentioning it to him.

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Demented · 12/11/2002 09:31

DS1 has had three dry nights but this morning DH went into his room to find him standing on his bed looking down at the wet sheet accusingly. I think mind you that he had just done it when he woke up, probably forgetting that he didn't have a nappy on. We didn't make any fuss, just told him it was OK. Anyway I was quite proud of both of us as I have been going without my feeding bra for the same amount of nights as DS2 is now sleeping through and I had leaked this morning too!

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