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16 month old daughter Autism?!

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Toworryornottoworry · 16/06/2022 17:41

I have a just turned 16 month daughter that I have been worried about for a number of months. She had covid when she was 12 months old and has pretty much never fully recovered from that development wise.

Communication:
-Sticks tongue out when I stick it out, imitates well
-she brings me things a lot of the time now majority of the time it’s for me to do some
thing with the object, to request more milk/water and she just randomly puts things in my lap or gives it to me and moves on
-has good joint attention but disappears the days she’s sick.
-She pulls on my clothes to get my attention, she has also recently started patting me on my body to request my attention and sometimes says “mama” whilst doing so
-says the word “ham” when eating or when requesting food
-says three words but not every day
-she touches what she wants if it’s close to her say for example a snack and then looks to me and pats me and so on until I either say ok and and give it to her or I say no
-she checks in very often and looks for praise when she’s playing
-she now waves sometimes
-she brings me the remote if she wants the tv putting on or channel changing (is this strange?)
-her checking in before she does something she isn’t allowed to has become more frequent
-pretends remote is phone and puts it to her ear

  • high fives, gives kisses, plays a few nursery rhymes with actions.
-loves dropping things and looks to me after she’s done it to which I say “uh oh” and she laughs. -has mastered the give me gesture and now gives without me putting my hand out by just saying the words “give me please” -understands “come here” and a few other simple commands -Gives when it benefits her a lot of the day though say a snack she wants opening, cup she wants filling those of sorts, when I ask her to give she does this way way less than her giving for help -tries to put dummy in my mouth randomly and when I say “X turn” she puts it in her own mouth. -reaches to be picked up since 8 months -follows my point, not all the time though. -uses eye contact well. -understands no -started walking at 15 months and looks at us for praise. -touches my nose when I say where’s nose -her toy play she does put things into bowls/containers and copy my play if I show her how to play, she loves balls and we roll it back and forth to each other, she pushes cars along and puts figurines in it, loves to play with kids ride along cars by pushing it herself or sitting on it, stacks things. -uses toothbrush, hairbrush, spoon etc appropriately. -pushes things away if she doesn’t want it any moves head away but doesn’t shake head for no or yes -claps -sleeps well and naps well but sometimes wakes up in middle of night wanting consoling as she wakes crying.

Concerns:
-still no index finger/whole hand pointing
(Has very few times pointed at my glasses or something close to her, don’t know if it’s her trying to touch things)
-some days chooses not to babble (tends to be the days she’s poorly)
-doesn’t shake head for yes or no
-still has stimmy behaviours shaking head, tilting head, randomly laying on floor and resting head. She does now come up to us when she shakes her head and laughs and gets us to join in so makes a game of it.
-still does some side eye looking/dragging
-not sure how much of this is to do with her ears or if they are genuine stims as she’s had a number of ear infections. She’s had a hearing test which they said was fine but not perfect hearing.
-spins wheels briefly few times a day.
-covers ears randomly
-is utterly obsessed with the tv she will literally shove anyone out the way if they try to talk to her if a tv show is on. Cocomelon being her obsession
-obsessed with phones and even presses buttons well
-my major concern is her eye contact has reduced massively. It used to be so good when she was a younger baby. She does use it whenever she communicates but she pretty much ignores everyone else and only looks at me. Some people have mentioned she ignores them.
-will loook if someone new walks in but not very often
-name response has reduced but will look to me if I say her name. Isn’t really bothered if someone else is calling her name
-she’s still very focused on screws and such little details on things/objects
-still holds together index finger or middle finger with thumb often (finger posturing)
-rocks back and forth and sways side to side when music on or when I’m singing to her and sometimes randomly

  • W sits a lot has no signs of low tone at all has good core strength
-scared of grass

My daughter has a number of allergies such as cmpa, eggs, banana and newsy one being wheat. I have tried taking her to the GP buy they are not concerned at all. If she eats something that doesn’t sit right with her she gets all types of symptoms and her behaviour is affected significantly too and almost seems to regress.

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Travelisfun · 16/06/2022 22:46

You are definitely over thinking it. She is still so little, almost all your concerns about her development are not a worry until at least 18 months. I know it is hard, but try and enjoy being with your little one rather than analysing every detail.
She sounds like she is developing absolutely fine! And they learn skills over night. My daughter couldn't say anything at 16 months, by 18 months she was putting two or three words together.

Toworryornottoworry · 17/06/2022 07:51

Thanks for your reply. I feel like 18 months is basically around the corner now that she’s already 16 months old!

Its not so much speech I’m concerned about really it’s gestures like pointing being the most important. I would be over the moon if she pointed on a daily basis and also shared that with me.

If you can remember did your daughter point by this age?

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Aycddi · 17/06/2022 16:37

Hi My son was not pointing at all and not following our points either until he was 16 months. Suddenly at 16 months we saw he is following our points and then within a few weeks it moved from whole hand pointing to pointing at waters, bread or birds, bunnies outside. I do have some other concerns still but with regards to pointing what I am trying to say - I was in the same place where you are but it almost changed overnight for us. We did increase playtime with our son following Laura Mize youtube prelingustic skills videos from 15 months. He is also going to ST ( as he had no words at all at 15 months)

Toworryornottoworry · 17/06/2022 16:46

@Aycddi what other concerns do you/did you have? When did you child start whole hand pointing because she’s not even doing that? I’m all over the place at the minute as I’m panicking about her future

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Aycddi · 17/06/2022 16:59

For My son -From following our Pointing to Whole Hand Ponting to Proper index finger Pointing happened within 3 weeks starting at his 16 months. My other concerns I just posted in a thread an hour ago: www.mumsnet.com/talk/behaviour_development/4571142-should-i-still-be-concerned-for-asd

thusela · 19/06/2022 20:14

Try ditching the tv for a few days and see if there's any change, I read a study happened recently which monitored tv use and autism behaviours is small children and there was a correlation, noticeably skills returned after periods without tv viewing. Scary really.

Toworryornottoworry · 20/06/2022 11:12

@thusela Thank you for your suggestion. I have ditched the tv for a few days now and she is more interactive and way more demanding. I do play with her lots and get on the floor with her and practice nursery rhymes which she utterly loves! She still is obsessed with the remote limiting it at the tv and bringing it to me wanting the tv on and she randomly walks around with it too. I have had to hide it now. She brings me things a lot more now but mainly for help or for me to do something with the object. The rest of the time she’s high needs as in crying, moaning following me round from room to room and pulling on me. I genuinely don’t know how much of her behaviour is allergy/uncomfortable or actual autistic signs. I have started her on a probiotic and hope that helps.

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Toworryornottoworry · 20/06/2022 11:15

@Aycddi wow so a lot of progress within a short space of time for your child. I hope the same for mine. She has started a new behaviour of wanting to squeeze behind me on the couch and then for me to squeeze her. Seems quite sensory seeking. Not sure what is typical toddler behaviour or what may be a stim.

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Aycddi · 20/06/2022 14:41

Currently my son is tip toeing a lot. And one thing he has done from a very early age is as he sleeps on my arm he will press his eyes on my hand as if to intentionally put some pressure on his eyes and forehead. i have asked his therapist and they said its nothing. Toddlers do many unusual things - but most of them will go away eventually. In many cases the stimming behaviors are not evident until 2 as well...

I have been panicking a lot for the last few months - since he started pointing and saying more words no want is ready to listen to me anymore. I have been told by family members to go for counseling myself to cope with this anxiety (maybe I should do that). For now I will continue with his therapies and will try another assessment around 24 months.

Toworryornottoworry · 20/06/2022 20:07

@Aycddi I guess toddlers and children in general have sensory needs it’s just that coupled with social communication issues/delays can be a red herring. So far I don’t have too many day to day difficulties with my daughter but I have the feeling that she can grow into potential issues if it’s Autism soon. She brings me things for help, just randomly and loves to initiate nursery rhymes and copies some of the movements too. Her showing skills are not as robust as I would imagine it should be. Just today I saw her brushing a dolls hair…would that be considered pretend play? She saw me brushing the dolls hair yesterday…is it a case of her just remembering that I did that or her pretending. She then gave me the brush and wanted me to brush the dolls hair which I did. I know it sounds ridiculous breaking down every little thing my daughter does. I am in therapy and on medications.

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Aycddi · 20/06/2022 21:38

"I know it sounds ridiculous breaking down every little thing my daughter does." I completely understand it. I am doing the same all the time. Sometimes I am mad at myself that I am not bale to enjoy the moments beings scared and analyzing him every second. Like the other day we went to a friends place and someone was trying to engage with him and he completely ignored the person. When I told my husband he was almost angry and said what about the day before when he waved at the waiter and people sitting in the table next to us?

I don't know where to stop or when this will stop. I hope all the best for you and your little one.

Toworryornottoworry · 21/06/2022 09:19

@AladdinMum Sorry to bother you. After researching about autism on musket it appears you have a good amount of knowledge in regards to autism. Could you read my post please? Thanks

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Toworryornottoworry · 21/06/2022 09:21

@Aycddi Thank you so much! Sounds like your child is very interactive and involves you and other people in their world. I don’t think you have anything to worry about. Hope the best for you too x

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Toworryornottoworry · 24/06/2022 15:21

Anybody else have anything to add, advice or if I have some valid concerns? My daughter is seemingly trying to use more words and has amped up her level of neediness. She follows me around everywhere and refuses to go to anyone else. She still brings me and shows me things daily but she is just unwilling to point to what she wants or point for interest. She’s now 16 months and 10 days old. The older she gets the more concerning I become. I can count how many times she’s pointed in her life. This week she sort of pointed to my nose, her feet, my other daughters face but she’s super close to what she’s pointing to when she does it so then I think is trying to touch it. She mainly just moans and cries to get her needs met. Thanks

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Justbecause88 · 24/06/2022 19:12

My son is 2 years 9 months and I have had concerns about him since he was 16 months old. He has now been referred to a paediatrician for an autism assessment. What I have learned is there is absolutely no point listing the things your child does/doesn't do. Autism is so vastly different from child to child and you will never get the answer you are looking for. Also worrying will not change the outcome. The best thing to do is to research it and change your thinking around it, it's really not a bad thing. Nursery have been amazing with my son and really supportive, so if your daughter goes then raise your concerns there

Raeleigh24 · 30/10/2023 18:49

@Toworryornottoworry

old post I know but any updates on your daughter OP x

Toworryornottoworry · 28/11/2023 19:27

Hi @Raeleigh24 just seen this message.

So my daughter is now 2 years 9 months old. She is certainly a high needs toddler and has always if I think about it been high needs and very spirited. It’s intense! But so far she hasn’t been diagnosed with Autism.

She seems to be using social communication on a daily basis and it’s easy for me to understand what she wants and she displays joint attention and things like that with me but think like I when previously said about other people it’s very limited communication if any with them.

She is a lot more fond of other kids but still doesn’t prefer for them to come too close and will sort of shout and yell at them. I am immensely happy that she actually notices other children and makes effort/attempts at playing with them but it’s very basic things like running around together, following each other on playground equipment and laughing together. Not long ago she wasn’t interested in other kids much at all.

She has picked up a lot more words now though she is still speech delayed for her age.

There still seems to be something “off” with my daughter but she’s displaying a lot of signs of anxiety and extreme separation anxiety which is hindering her development.

Im still not sure if all her illnesses and allergies earlier in her life have contributed to her temperament and in all honesty her health problems are still affecting her today.

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Mumof3bb1 · 14/01/2025 15:34

Hi @Toworryornottoworry how is your little one now?

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