I've had enough. He is in his room sobbing and throwing things. Flameboy is a DEMON I tell you!

[FlameNFurter]

Ok, so he is tired, but he is pinching, hitting and throwing when he can't get his own way.

It used to be just occasionally, but it has bee n all week.

I can't take it anymore.

DD can't take it (the injured one having her things thrown).

When it was because she was teasing him I was more tolerant, but now he doesn't have any reason. The latest tantrum was over having the "wrong" cup to drink from (the one he had yelled for 2 mins before).

I know smacking doesn't work. I actually pinched the back of his hand today after he was particularly vicious to DD

We were doing (Hunker's ?) method of pinning him on my lap, arms by side calmly telling him that it is naughty, hurts etc, but I am at the stage of doing that every 2 seconds and it really doesn't seem to be helping.

Naughty stairs/corners... he legs it, so it is a case of the same holding method.

Yes - he is 22 months and officially entering terrible twos.

I miss my loving easy boy

DS2 is rthe same at the mo

o advice just know what you are going thru

FB and DS2 prob have the same level of language and understanding too

Oi! I saw that Dragon!

Can demonic possession really be counted as a stage - will it end without exorcism... or before he hits 12?

MoM

on the bright side, he is now in his room so you can't see him pinching/hitting/teasing/climbing etc

I can't pin ds2 to my lap...he gets bullied by a baby bump

He is now pinned to chair smearing spag bol on his hair. I am ignoring.

They can fight each other, Flame.

can i throw in a monster??

monster Vs FlameBoy Vs Baby dragon

It is definately a stage they go through but that is little comfort to you right now. When my DS started to have a tantrum I tried all the usual distraction techniques which often did work but if they failed I would just sit on the floor in the same room so that I was at his level. I would make no eye contact and would not communicate at all. I would just sit still and stare into outer space. This would initially but tempporarily cause an increase in his rage but soon it would start to take effect. Any communication whether it is trying to reason, shouting at him, trying to pacify him is attention. Zero attention would eventually bring the tantrum to an end and the fact that I had refrained from communicating meant tempers didn't get out of control and the guilt factor that mums so often go though after dealing with a tantrum was not there. Good Luck

@ the fight. I get the feeling that BabyDragon would win!

I will try more silent ignoringy stuff

Definitely try the no eye contact but physical presence method as described above for full-on tantrums. Also sometimes accompanying this with talking very calmly and in a rather boring tone of voice about something completely different (but mildly interesting) works. I do think it depends a bit on your temperament too, how upsetting you find this stage - I am fine with full-on tantrums (probably because I had so many myself!), feel that I can bear them and manage them OK, but cannot bear even 5 minutes of whining, just makes me see red!