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Disheartened at constant defiance

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Thistledew · 17/08/2021 22:14

DS has just turned 5. It often feels like everything is a constant battle with him and I don't know what to do to make a change.

For example today:

He wouldn't put his tablet down and come and eat breakfast. Had to physically take it from him.
Had to dress him as he would not do it.
Refused to leave the house then ran off down the garden rather than get in the car to go to his holiday club.
Refused to get out of the car and put his waterproofs on to go to holiday club. I had to physically pull him out and manhandle him into his clothes.
Collecting him from holiday club he refused to sit in the car seat to go home. I tried really hard not to end up in a physical wrestling match like in the morning - tried chatting and giving him some connection, and walking away for some minutes and ignoring him. Eventually told him that I had been planning to take him for a treat but had changed my mind. Cue floods of tears. He told tried telling me I 'had' to treat him to cheer him up (a suggestion that got very short shrift).
When he eventually calmed down I talked to him about how frustrated I was with him refusing to do as I asked and how it upset me too to be fighting with him rather than enjoying a nice treat.

10 minutes later we got home and I asked him to go and was his hands: "Never!" More tears. He had apparently washed them before leaving his club.

Again refused to put down his tablet and come to the dinner table. It had to be taken from him.

He refused to answer a question about what he had done during the day. Just ignored that he had been asked.

Every day is the same. I try to use natural consequences but the consequences seem to be that we end up physically forcing him to do what we want, which doesn't feel great.

His school and clubs haven't noted anything too out of the ordinary in terms of behaviour. He finds it very difficult to engage with a task that he doesn't find interesting but he isn't so defiant as when he is at home.

Any ideas? It's making both me and DH so frustrated with him.

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Jannt86 · 18/08/2021 07:32

Tbh it sounds like you're pretty much doing what you can. No it isn't nice to force them to do things but with some things such as getting dressed to go out he needs to know that you're the parent and he just needs to do them. I'd ask him nicely but firmly twice to do what you need then point out that he seems to be having trouble with it and that you'll need to do it for him and then count to 3 or something and just do it for him. You could try and make it as fun as possible for him too eg 'shall we hop to the car?' 'Let's see if I can find my keys before you find your jacket' etc I think fun and playfullness are totally underated in parenting and can be used really effectively as they're basically the centre of a child's world really

With the ipad I would chat to him when he's calm and explain that you've noticed that he can sometimes forget to listen to you when it's time to put it away. Explain that you can't let him do that as the ipad is a privledge not a right and it needs to go away when you say so. Agree with him there and then that if he can't give it back to you nicely when you tell him then you'll have to confiscate it for a few days. When the inevitable happens and he refuses just remind him of the above deal you made and calmly remove it and remind him that he's chosen to lose ipad privledges for a few days but try and avoid 'i told you so'

It does sound like you're dealing with it quite well tbh. Just stay calm, be firm but don't be confrontational and hopefully things will improve as he matures. I read a really good book called 'how to talk so little kids will listen' which has really helped me with my 3YO. Good luck x

withsexypantsandasausagedog · 23/08/2021 13:42

Take the tablet away. Could use it as a reward for listening, and only if he gives it back after you have given him a countdown ie 5 mins left, 3 mins, 2 mins

Lineeyesoverhere · 23/08/2021 19:13

I could’ve written this about my 4 year old. Defiant, angry, grumpy and easily frustrated at the moment. The last 3 weeks since his birthday have been so hard. I just miss my little boy.

This evening we started a Visual countdown to put down the iPad and go to the bath. I was preparing for yet another battle but it worked! A miracle!

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