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4 year old crying when singing

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mmcal31 · 23/06/2021 16:36

Hi, I hope someone can help me!
I have a four year old who is a naturally very quiet and timid child. He is not in any way boisterous or loud. He only began to talk at 3 and a half years as we found out quite late that his hearing was impaired and had grommets fitted. Talking slowly began and he was discharged from SALT at 4 years old.
He has been attending pre-school, and settled in well. Enjoys going and chats about it afterwards when he gets home.
However, the teacher has informed me that when the group sings, he becomes very upset. I attended his pre-school for a day to see how things go, and yes, he sang the first song with the other children, and when it was finished he began to cry uncontrollably and then was afraid to join in there after. I find this very strange as his favorite thing to do at home is sing and dance. I honestly cannnot tell how to help him? The teacher also said he reacts the same at group story time. This is also alien to me as he loves books and stories at home and constantly asks for them to be read?
The health visitor at pre-school also spoke to me about how he is very quiet in the playground and prefers his own company, she also mentioned he 'dis-associates' with everything gong on around him, which I disagreed with as he can relay to me the children's names, what they done that day and different things that had happened e.g. a child fell and hurt his knee.
He is very quiet around knew people, groups of children etc. and very chatty and confident at home.
Autism has been mentioned to me, however I find it hard to agree with this as I have zero concerns outside of school, he is very sociable with family and friends, no issues in large crowds or loud noises, eats well, sleeps well and speaks well. Again can be quite shy but but will speak and interact and play.

I was very surprised at his reactions in playgroup as it is so out of character. He began to cry uncontrollably and have a melt down for a toy at play group, which again, I have never seen him do and found it so strange and was shocked at his reactions and behavior.
His learning is fantastic and I don't have any worries about this. The teacher says he does all the tasks he is asked to do efficiently.
Has anyone ever came across something like this, I am starting to feel like the health visitors and teachers think I am lying about how this is so strange to me and he is like a different child at home?
He has a younger sister who is 2 and they are like best mates, sharing is not an issue and they play with each other all day long.
Also, he seems to be more talkative with other children when I am there or when it is in our home. Outside of home, he is extremely quiet. I have watched him try to talk to other children and it is like he doesn't know what to say and if he does speak they have no interest and walk away. for example, I watched him in play group take a book to another child and point to the picture of the mouse and started to say 'look at this mouse' and the child just walked away.
I have no idea how to help him and my heart is broke trying to think of ways to help him come out of his shell a little in other places, and also trying to convince healthcare professionals that he is a different child at home!
Very hard to watch and a huge worry for primary 1.
Any ideas or any similar problems to share would be so helpful right now!

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confusedmamaa · 23/06/2021 22:58

Honestly, no parent wants to have a child that's 'different' not because we want a perfect child but because their future isn't what we thought it would be, it's a scary thought. Maybe open up to the idea that he possibly is on the autism spectrum but remember it's not just one size fits all, it varies X

mmcal31 · 24/06/2021 07:28

Hi thanks so much for your reply. I have been quite open to autism i have done so much research and what I keep coming back to is, the autistic traits that match my son are only seen at school? How can that be? All very confusing and worrying. I asked the health visitor this and she replied 'i dont have these answers' which I found odd and not very reassuring. He has another review soon and so hopefully that will help things along Smile
I just want to get to the bottom of the issue to help him as best we can. X

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BunnyRuddington · 24/06/2021 08:05

what I keep coming back to is, the autistic traits that match my son are only seen at school? There is a lot more stimulus for them to deal with at school. Could it just simply be that?

lotsofdogshere · 24/06/2021 08:26

OP you could be describing one of my loved one’s at 4 years of age. Nursery and school were right to mention what they saw as unusual behaviour. It hadn’t been seen in his family either.
It may be worth remaining open to the possibility of autism.

mmcal31 · 24/06/2021 09:05

Yes i was thinking this, then he has been going to crowded soft plays with 40 children there and family gatherings and days out and not a single issue to report? Cant understand what it is about school that strikes him to make him so nervous? hopefully his next review will tell more. Thanks for the comment Smile

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ellielucas · 24/06/2021 11:18

hello! i have 22 months old and concern about autism but when i read your post i dont think it is about asd at all. i research so much and doesnt make sense.

it just remind me my own childhood when time come to singing or reading a book i just want it to cry i dont know why i was 6 but i remember that feeling so well! my mum and dad was at work all the time but when i am not in my comfort place like home or grandma's house i was feeling unsecure some reason. i think he is being shy or some friends something and he didnt like. just keep eye on it but i dont think anything major x

mmcal31 · 24/06/2021 12:41

Hi thank you for your comment. I have felt like when in company he does become very quiet, and when i am not there he will not really speak at all. He gets excited about the idea of nursery and talks very fondly of it but when he is there he is so to himself and quiet? Maybe even nervous and anxious.
When he started nursery in the beginning he refused to go in without me, i had to sit in each session for 3 weeks as when i left he was so unsettled they had to call me to collect him.
We changed nurseries and this was not an issue he is happy to go in each day and leave me and excited to see me on collection.
Very worrying, alot of opinions on it. I just want to be able to help him!

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MargaretThursday · 24/06/2021 19:53

Ds has had bad glue ear. He has damage to the ear drum and struggled with noise at school. Behaviour with glue ear can mimic ASD.

However ds has recently (he's 13yo) been diagnosed with ASD. People kept saying that when he grew out of the glue ear then he'd grow out of the other behaviour. He was 12yo before he grew out of glue ear, and I regret not pushing before.

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