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Sillymummies123 · 14/02/2021 10:06

Hi all,

I’ve posted before. It’s been a very rocky road with our child. I like to convince myself to go easier on myself for the way I struggle with him because we’ve been through two lockdowns, but to be honest I was done before COVID even swung into our neck of the woods.

Our child is so grumpy. I don’t know how else to describe it. He came in screaming, spent all day between 0-6 months screaming, then decided just to carry on. He’s 18 months now.

I’m not exaggerating. Anything sets him off. He spends most days just low level whining - I don’t believe there’s much wrong at baseline - but it’s almost like whining quietly is his breathing. The slightest thing results is a ‘stamp feet, shout, throw head back - fall over and bang head - kick around on floor.’ This is not new. This is not a phase. This has been the case as long as he has been able to do so.

I am not unreasonable. I am understanding when there is an evident cause. One example of the episode above today was me saying, with a smile ‘I love you!’ - looks at me, shouts, throws head back, tantrums.

I am not exaggerating. I would say he is not in the act of releasing a whine or shout about 20% of his waking day. I understand tantrums are normal. I understand that. But he seems to hate everyone around him, being alive, etc. It’s literally a scream whine battle from the moment he wakes up to the moment he goes to bed, with some random cheerful episodes interspersed. Often, our fun play efforts will merit a giggle and smile - but during the giggle and smile he is also whining and sobbing.

He wants to be picked up, so I do so, so he launches himself immediately off and tantrums. I cannot shit, I cannot clean, I cannot wash up, I cannot cook, I cannot cuddle. I cannot play with - it’s all just a big shout. I remain calm. I try to distract. I cuddle. I ask him to use his words (He’s pre-verbal, but knows how to say ‘Tumble’ for Mr Tumble - and my god! Never mind saying no - he will be tantruming in the time it takes me to reach for the remote). I model positivity, I play with my partner near him and encourage him to join. I invent fun new activities as best I can in lockdown. I am now at the point of waking up in dread because I know there is no escape from a day of it anymore.

I am going a little mad. I am also heartbroken that he is so angry and miserable, and I feel like there is less of a bond between us and more just that I am the object of his greatest disdain and misery.

There are good days, this is a bad one. And I find myself angry that nobody warned me. That if parenthood is this horrible, that someone might have said. The adage that ‘it is all worth it’ is laughable BS. I am here, I am ready, I am here to feed, love, cuddle, play, discipline, console, advise. I want that. What I have is a child who seems in abject misery, and who hates his home and his family so much that he screams 80% of the day, most days.

My partner and I work with children - I don’t see autism in him, as that’s where my mind goes. He shows lots of evidence of understanding language and social cues- pointing, voice tone changes, I can ask him to give x to person Y and he does it (though of course not always because something else is more interesting)

I feel like raising a toddler in lockdown is pure hell. Mostly because I don’t know what normal is. If this is part of the course, then fine. Perhaps one day I’ll be able to meet other parents and find out.

Rant over - I don’t expect a fix, just an opinion that doesn’t entirely paint me as a villain or some useful advise would be appreciated.

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BunnyRuddington · 14/02/2021 10:47

I have so much sympathy for you. I found the time when mine were more aware but couldn't really speak quite hard, it's so frustrating for them.

One thing that might help is this progress checker from ICan.

If he screamed a lot as a baby, have you ruled out the usual suspects like CMPA and Tongue tie?

Sillymummies123 · 14/02/2021 11:00

@BunnyRuddington

I have so much sympathy for you. I found the time when mine were more aware but couldn't really speak quite hard, it's so frustrating for them.

One thing that might help is this progress checker from ICan.

If he screamed a lot as a baby, have you ruled out the usual suspects like CMPA and Tongue tie?

Hi

Thanks for your reply. Sympathy does help because I have no idea what parenting is because I’ve spent over a year sitting indoors like most.

I did it, answered no to a couple and was told to speak to someone from the company. We’ve been under speech and language therapist for eating (resolved now)
And she’s happy that he’s a tad behind but progressing well.

A lot of people say it’s frustration with not being able to communicate but I just don’t find myself believing that. The tantrums come out of the blue, not after he has tried to indicate a want. Cake time for me

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BunnyRuddington · 14/02/2021 11:04

We’ve been under speech and language therapist for eating

Has he ever been checked for tongue tie? My DS screamed fir England, could manage solids and was miserable and sleep was horrendous. He was about the same age as your DS when we discovered he was tongue tied.

Sillymummies123 · 14/02/2021 18:03

@BunnyRuddington

We’ve been under speech and language therapist for eating

Has he ever been checked for tongue tie? My DS screamed fir England, could manage solids and was miserable and sleep was horrendous. He was about the same age as your DS when we discovered he was tongue tied.

Yeah a few times I think. He was in NICU etc and saw the breastfeeding consultant.

I will just have to be strong enough to get through the next few years. I’m sure once he’s chatting it’ll be much easier to see reason in the explosions :( it doesn’t help that he’s super clingy to me only, and not my partner- who regularly tries to give me just ten minutes away. This always ends with toddler banging on the door screaming.

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lullabiesplease · 14/02/2021 20:25

Hi @Sillymummies123, if its any consolidation, I have one exactly the same. Boy, 18 months, been whinging since he left the womb. Tonight in particular has been dreadful. My DH said he wants to leave because he just can't take it any longer. And I feel the same. It's actually making me depressed. My son is making me depressed. How awful am I saying that! I'm considering paying someone to help us. I'd be very shocked if he was on the spectrum as he is very intelligent & has always met milestones earlier than expected. I too dread my alone time with him. I look forward to my working days where he goes to childcare. I need someone to tell me it gets easier! My son is my entire life and the good days are the best. Anyway, if you want to talk to someone who knows exactly how you feel, I'm here xx

Sillymummies123 · 14/02/2021 20:38

@lullabiesplease

Hi *@Sillymummies123*, if its any consolidation, I have one exactly the same. Boy, 18 months, been whinging since he left the womb. Tonight in particular has been dreadful. My DH said he wants to leave because he just can't take it any longer. And I feel the same. It's actually making me depressed. My son is making me depressed. How awful am I saying that! I'm considering paying someone to help us. I'd be very shocked if he was on the spectrum as he is very intelligent & has always met milestones earlier than expected. I too dread my alone time with him. I look forward to my working days where he goes to childcare. I need someone to tell me it gets easier! My son is my entire life and the good days are the best. Anyway, if you want to talk to someone who knows exactly how you feel, I'm here xx
This message does help more than you could know. We’ve both had a similar journey - two lockdowns (November didn’t count). I don’t think it’s supposed to be like this. Ours was fine after a nap and a poop the size of his head today, but, like you, it is daily.

I don’t know about you but I feel that quite a bit of the anxiety (far from all) comes from feeling inadequate and worrying that it’s something I’m doing to him. Hearing from others normalises it a little, so thank you. When I sent my message we were having a particularly terrible morning, like your evening. I found it nice to watch YouTube videos or 2 : 3 year olds. Is this your first? It’s ours, and I think it doesn’t help having no idea what will change and when :) Videos sometimes help me to realise just how much he’ll change and grow over the next year or two. Is yours also not really talking atm? We counted today and ours is on 6 words, and as suggested above I imagine a lot is just frustration at not communicating his feelings.

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lullabiesplease · 14/02/2021 20:52

@Sillymummies123 to be honest some days I feel like it's me that's the problem. Maybe I did or didn't do something I should have. Some days I feel resentful towards DH as his parents tell me he was exactly the same when he was a child. And then other days I just think my son is an utter arse hole! I know tomorrow could be better and I will feel awful for posting this but tonight it is needed for my sanity. Yes he's our first and will be our only if things don't change. He says maybe 15 words I'd say. He talks a lot of gibberish too and probably is frustrated. But it's not our only issue with him, he wakes up very early, sometimes 5am and will whinge/sob for an hour. It really sets our mood for the day. He also won't go to bed without kicking up a stink most nights. It frustrates me because he lives such a great life, and has a good routine which I try to be strict on. I don't understand why he's so unhappy. Don't get me wrong, it's not every day. But recently it's been most days. Nice to know I'm not the only one though and I pray things get better especially when out of lockdown. X

lullabiesplease · 15/02/2021 07:21

A bad morning to say the least! DH ready to leave, said he doesn't want him anymore which broke my heart. I know he said it out of frustration though and I have been there. I've cried all morning. Honestly don't know what to do anymore, I want professional help. It's effecting my mental health and my relationship.

He was up 5am just crying, fidgeting, whinging, kicking us, then wanting to go and play. He seems to be ok after a bottle & a poo. I wonder if I should stop morning bottle. Does your DS still have one?

Sillymummies123 · 15/02/2021 07:45

@lullabiesplease

A bad morning to say the least! DH ready to leave, said he doesn't want him anymore which broke my heart. I know he said it out of frustration though and I have been there. I've cried all morning. Honestly don't know what to do anymore, I want professional help. It's effecting my mental health and my relationship.

He was up 5am just crying, fidgeting, whinging, kicking us, then wanting to go and play. He seems to be ok after a bottle & a poo. I wonder if I should stop morning bottle. Does your DS still have one?

I’m so sorry to hear that. You’re probably right and that it’s frustration. Both of us have uttered those words on the hard days. 5am is the rough side of a wake up time Confused When does he go to bed? Is he still waking at night? Is he properly waking up at 5am? Ours often screams in his sleep around 5 until 6:30 then just starts babbling.

We got rid of the morning bottle and left the afternoon nap one. It was hell a few months ago and we’d obviously made an error but we didn’t want to jeopardise that afternoon nap as ours is very hit and miss with naps, 50% of days waking far too early and being groggy for the rest of the day.

I think all four of us have to remember that we’re going through something awful. This is the age where I would have hoped to have been out all day every day tiring him out at playgroups, swimming, hikes etc. Raising a toddler is objectively hard it seems (though I’ve had to break through the barrier of parents with older children as I genuinely believe a blanket of trauma stifles the real memories of what it’s like. Last night I calculated that ours will start school in 2023! I have worked with that school group and know how much further along they are. Explosive tantrums are rare. There is light. Do you have a childcare bubble with any family who could give you a mental health break?

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Sillymummies123 · 15/02/2021 08:35

If there’s any school confusion, his due date was right before the cutoff for the next year and then he was born early anyway

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lullabiesplease · 15/02/2021 20:03

Another bad night for us. And I've been reading. I think it's the 18 month sleep regression! Have you read anything about it?

Sillymummies123 · 16/02/2021 08:54

Ive read about the 5 month, 6 month, 7 month, 8 month, 9 month, 10 month regression etc etc etc.

I think people look for order in sleep changes that occur throughout brain development. Ours kicks off with sleep sometimes. We’re having a rare week of him sleeping to 6:40, and so I am less annoyed in general (and in a good position to tell you that it will get better and you should keep going). Ordinarily, but am also in a ‘ I can’t take one more second inside this house with a bored 18 month old throwing a tv remote at my head and saying ‘tumble’’ mood. We’re currently doing a tv detox.

I wonder if any others are finding 18 months indoors all day everyday hell and are lurking and willing to offer solidarity? Surely can’t be that enjoyable for anyone?

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sunshine294 · 16/02/2021 14:14

Hi OP, I could have written this post. Your son sounds exactly like my 20 month old. Of course there’s the usual toddler frustration going on with them and of course all toddlers tantrum but somehow it all just feels like MORE with them doesn’t it? We’ve been on the same rocky road since birth. He’s also my first and I felt like nothing has been as I imagined it and I was pretty realistic with my expectations. It’s been incredibly tough so I really sympathise with you. It’s also very isolating because it can be almost impossible to explain the relentlessness of their challenging mood to someone who hasn’t experienced living with a baby/toddler like this. Have you heard of a “High Need” child? I feel like this is the closest fit with describing my son. I’ve found reading Dr Sears ‘The Fussy Baby Book’ and also ‘Raising your Spirited Child’ by Mary Sheedy Kurcinka to be enormously helpful in explaining what we’ve been through already and to help navigate the way ahead. Just a quick google of high needs will help you work out whether this sounds relevant to you. All I can advise otherwise is to hang on in there. My experience as a parent is getting better as time passes in that I’m finding that the sun comes out from behind the clouds with him more often now. I still have truly nightmarish weeks but I think understanding his temperament has helped and changing my parenting style is showing results. (We’re also putting him into nursery as soon as we can so that I can get a break and try to get back to the workplace, so if that’s a possibility I’d definitely recommend it - I feel like because if that there’s now light at the end of the tunnel!).
My heart goes out to you. I also think that I would have had these challenges without lockdown, but it really hasn’t helped things.

sunshine294 · 16/02/2021 14:31

Also, just read about your Tv Detox - we’ve had to do the same. My son has a fairly limited vocabulary (although can understand/communicate to a fairly advanced level) and our version of Mr Tumble is Duggee. I got so sick of having “Duggee, Duggee, DUGGEE!” aggressively yelled at me that we had to go cold turkey. We’re now easing some screen time back in slowly but I’m monitoring for the signs that he needs to cut down again. Although tv seems to calm him while he’s watching it he often displays quite a lot of challenging behaviour afterwards.
Does you son like water play? Mine will spend up to 15 minutes at a time happily playing with a washing up bowl filled with water on the kitchen floor. I give him cups to pour with, the dish brush to “wash” dishes and also things like pebbles to drop in the water and fetch out again. You need a lot of old towels to mop up the water but IMO it’s worth it for a bit of distraction. Also, is he old enough for play doh yet? I made a batch myself so that if he rejected it then I wouldn’t have lost anything. It’s taken my son a couple of weeks to get used to it (he’s very particular about new experiences and textures so I’ve had to expose him to it a little bit every day) but it is actually starting to pay off and he’ll now play with it for 4 or 5 minutes. Also sorting things - like dried beans or pinecones or leaves (things you can pick up on a walk or from the cupboard) into different containers seems to calm him down. He’s quite good at not putting things into his mouth though so I don’t need to stress too much about the swallowing risk. He also likes it when I take all the cushions from the sofa to make a “road” for him to walk along. Blanket forts seem to upset him though! It’s very hard keeping them entertained and it’s totally exhausting. It also depends on what kind of mood he’s in. What he tolerated one day will be met with a tantrum the next. My son isn’t really interested in conventional toys (hence the pebbles and pinecones...) and doesn’t like dancing or singing etc so there’s been loads of trial and error in finding things he’ll tolerate. Hopefully now the weather is improving we can all get outside with our toddlers more. It’s been a long winter..

sunshine294 · 16/02/2021 14:49

@lullabiesplease
I’m sorry things are so difficult for you too. Please don’t feel guilty for feeling depressed. I openly admit that my depression right now is down to the challenges I’m having with my son. It’s so sad that we feel this way but I know it’s not my fault and it’s not yours either. Try and be as kind to yourself as possible because piling on the self guilt is not going to make the situation better for anyone. You’re doing incredibly well to have coped with it all so far. I made it my challenge this winter to work on letting go of some of my guilt (I’ve blamed our traumatic birth, PND, and just not being a ‘fun’ enough mum for my sons behaviour until I realised that that was all nonsense) and I think it’s helping me to cope better with it all. It’s a day by day process though...
Also, talking of professional help, have you a good health visitor? I cracked and phoned them in tears and they took my situation really seriously (my sons night sleep is dreadful and seriously impacting my mental health) and now I’m in the process of waiting for a face to face assessment next week. I wish I had called earlier but I was so worried that I wouldn’t be believed and it would be written off as normal toddler behaviour.
In the meantime though I have also found a good therapist who has a background in child care and that has really helped me find some extra strength to deal with it all. Don’t hesitate to seek out extra help if you can!

lullabiesplease · 16/02/2021 15:15

Hi @sunshine294 thank you for your kind message! We have actually turned a corner today by the looks of it. Last night it took us an hour to get him to bed (and stop screaming) he wanted me which made me realise it is separation anxiety. But then slept 8-5 in his own bed and then another 1.5 hours in our bed which is extremely good for him. Had a bit of a fight getting him in car seat for nursery but once there he skipped in and has napped for 2.5 hours this afternoon at nursery so I pray things are on the up. If I'm honest we often have weeks of absolutely awful behaviour and then suddenly he is the happiest most content child after. I wonder if it's teeth or regressions but I hope it's something that will not continue to happen because when he's good he is amazing!

sunshine294 · 16/02/2021 15:20

@lullabiesplease
So happy to hear it! Our son slept 7-5 last night so just having that chunk of uninterrupted sleep is amazing for everyone involved! We’ve had a good couple of days too. It just gives you the strength to keep going doesn’t it? Fingers crossed for it lasting for you!

Sillymummies123 · 17/02/2021 08:04

@sunshine294

Hi OP, I could have written this post. Your son sounds exactly like my 20 month old. Of course there’s the usual toddler frustration going on with them and of course all toddlers tantrum but somehow it all just feels like MORE with them doesn’t it? We’ve been on the same rocky road since birth. He’s also my first and I felt like nothing has been as I imagined it and I was pretty realistic with my expectations. It’s been incredibly tough so I really sympathise with you. It’s also very isolating because it can be almost impossible to explain the relentlessness of their challenging mood to someone who hasn’t experienced living with a baby/toddler like this. Have you heard of a “High Need” child? I feel like this is the closest fit with describing my son. I’ve found reading Dr Sears ‘The Fussy Baby Book’ and also ‘Raising your Spirited Child’ by Mary Sheedy Kurcinka to be enormously helpful in explaining what we’ve been through already and to help navigate the way ahead. Just a quick google of high needs will help you work out whether this sounds relevant to you. All I can advise otherwise is to hang on in there. My experience as a parent is getting better as time passes in that I’m finding that the sun comes out from behind the clouds with him more often now. I still have truly nightmarish weeks but I think understanding his temperament has helped and changing my parenting style is showing results. (We’re also putting him into nursery as soon as we can so that I can get a break and try to get back to the workplace, so if that’s a possibility I’d definitely recommend it - I feel like because if that there’s now light at the end of the tunnel!). My heart goes out to you. I also think that I would have had these challenges without lockdown, but it really hasn’t helped things.
Hello,

Thank you so much for taking the time to post this. I am struggling with isolation in lockdown. (I would be absolutely hunky-dory if I was in lockdown without an 18 month old! I have many interests and would make terrific use of the time but there you go...). I am filled with, as you say, a constant guilt that I have ‘made him into this’.

Just this morning, our wake up was ‘Hello? Darling. How did you sleep?’ He looked at me for one second, shouted, threw himself backwards, kicked his legs, started going red in the face and crying. I’ve been calm, smiley, comforting this morning... He is still doing this now. Breakfast was hell. My partner and I were both in tears with his constant shouting. As I say this from the bathroom, I can hear my partners soothing voice and my sons frustrated tantrum that they would DARE try and talk to him or comfort him in some way.

Some days I can handle it, but when I wake not feeling the epitome of strength he just absolutely destroys me by 8am. He is already in daycare... but the mornings, evenings and weekends are still too much... I arrive at work every day having already dealt with a tornado of tantrums and having been in tears myself.

The good days are manageable, and when he’s not around I’m bright as day - so I would not take antidepressants or accept a PND diagnosis. I have asshole-induced-depression (isn’t it sad that if asked for an overview of my own son it would be ‘asshole’).

I thank you for the book recommendations. I’ll read them and I hope they help, but I am just exhausted, tired, guilty, scared for the implications of his behaviour, dreading of each moment I spend with him and (inevitable after all this time) resentful. I fear that things are too far gone.

Having said that - on the rare days / hours that he is not like this I enjoy being with him, but the current of ‘when is he going to explode’ remains.

I agree about people who don’t go through this - my family have openly said ‘don’t have a second child because you can’t ‘handle’ this one’. It’s very demoralising. I have to work bloody hard to survive with him. I’d say my handling skills are probably at the top end!

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Sillymummies123 · 19/02/2021 14:21

Wrecked. Had enough. Can’t take it anymore.

Managed to have a productive morning by ferbering him to add another ten minutes sleep to his wake up this morning. I then managed to survive up to 12 by basically giving 200% energy to keep him happy (though the result was that his face was neutral. Went to park, saw ducks, walked together, did some nursery rhyme sing along in YouTube - he’s a psycho. The result of it all is just ‘less moaning and a blank, stoney face.)

He woke up at 12:30 from nap, he’s whining and tantruming. I’ve been modelling about 50 different activities for/with him, offered him snacks, water, food, cuddles. Offering him anything Results in kicking and screaming on the floor.

I can’t take another day of this. I really can’t. I’ve phoned the GP but nothing will come of it. I’ve told the HV a million times that I’m concerned about his mood. We’re discharged from speech and language therapy because he’s ‘not a concern’, we see play therapy and her advice is ‘he’s frustrated at lack of communication’. I’m sick of all of it - and I’m sick of his (son’s) flipping attitude.

I am just tired. I can offer no more bouncing excitement or varied activities. He just whines / moans / clings through anything. GAAAAAAAAHHGGGGGGGGG

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windy2909 · 19/02/2021 22:13

So sorry to hear you’re struggling. What is his sleep like?

smellywellyjelly · 20/02/2021 09:30

I just want to offer some solidarity. My DS (now 4) was like this and he is an absolutely lovely boy now, school tell be how wonderful he is. We've had different teachers/assistants with lockdown and I keep getting told he's so kind, so well behaved . He's an extremely sensitive and quite serious soul, but super now. When he laughs it's beautiful.

I have DD age 14 months now and oh yes I'm remember the dark days from DS, she is the same in the shape of a similarly bad sleeping girl ....arghhhhhhh. It is frustration, they want what they want and aren't able to be rational.

You all sound like you are doing a great job, please grieve for what you thought your child would be like as a baby/ toddler and realise we were all deluded Grin

Get a all in one rainsuit / puddlesuit and wellies take them in the park or playground. Go on walks, I often have to sing to stop the low level whinge from the pushchair, but sometimes I can play some songs on my phone and give my voice a break from singing the wheels on the bus.

Absolutely let them play with household things, pans, your jewellery, utensils ( just watch them). Toy rotation too so they don't see the same stuff each day. Books, simple picture books or short board book stories. And realise most people apart from those windup trolls on MN let their kids watch a lot of TV, certainly it's for manyits is on the background all day. So trying to limit it you are doing a good thing, but it is hard, don't stress about it so much.

To aid speech label things, over and over car, car, blue car. Mummy's car, DS' car, pass the car. Give choices blue cup or red cup? Show the choice and get them to point if they won't say it.

You will be rewarded, all the effort, all modelling how to play and coming up with different thing. They will be clever and imaginative. They will be content.. just probably not between age 1-2 sorry!

Sillymummies123 · 20/02/2021 10:52

@smellywellyjelly

I just want to offer some solidarity. My DS (now 4) was like this and he is an absolutely lovely boy now, school tell be how wonderful he is. We've had different teachers/assistants with lockdown and I keep getting told he's so kind, so well behaved . He's an extremely sensitive and quite serious soul, but super now. When he laughs it's beautiful.

I have DD age 14 months now and oh yes I'm remember the dark days from DS, she is the same in the shape of a similarly bad sleeping girl ....arghhhhhhh. It is frustration, they want what they want and aren't able to be rational.

You all sound like you are doing a great job, please grieve for what you thought your child would be like as a baby/ toddler and realise we were all deluded Grin

Get a all in one rainsuit / puddlesuit and wellies take them in the park or playground. Go on walks, I often have to sing to stop the low level whinge from the pushchair, but sometimes I can play some songs on my phone and give my voice a break from singing the wheels on the bus.

Absolutely let them play with household things, pans, your jewellery, utensils ( just watch them). Toy rotation too so they don't see the same stuff each day. Books, simple picture books or short board book stories. And realise most people apart from those windup trolls on MN let their kids watch a lot of TV, certainly it's for manyits is on the background all day. So trying to limit it you are doing a good thing, but it is hard, don't stress about it so much.

To aid speech label things, over and over car, car, blue car. Mummy's car, DS' car, pass the car. Give choices blue cup or red cup? Show the choice and get them to point if they won't say it.

You will be rewarded, all the effort, all modelling how to play and coming up with different thing. They will be clever and imaginative. They will be content.. just probably not between age 1-2 sorry!

Thank you for your help. I feel ashamed looking back at the childlike rant I threw on for nobody to hear yesterday. It was just the at after a truly terrible day and it was starting again...

Today is amazing. He slept to half 6, woke up smiling and we’ve been for a wet welly walk. Quite out of nowhere he has suddenly been capable of (excruciatingly slow) 1-2 mile walks. Had a few tantrums of obvious origin today so far but that’s absolutely fine.

The good days are okay, the amazing days are good, and the awful awful days are decimating and a little too frequent.

I really really appreciate you letting me know it gets better. It isn’t even that difficult to deal with the worst behaviour, it’s just the sheer relentlessness - 24/7 - that makes it unbearable. As I’ve said - not attending any baby groups, soft play etc has prevented us having any earthly idea of what we’re doing. All the similar tales help.

Good day today!!

Had a moment of sheer love yesterday when we looked at his picture word book and found I could say almost any word and he would point at it - balloon, ball, shoes, giraffe, goldfish, little boy, red, blue. I was (I admit, for the first time in a while) overcome with love and pride.

It really is a rollercoaster with toddlers like this (although with all of them to an extent I imagine). Have ordered one of the recommended above books and will try to modulate my reaction to the bad times.

Thank you all. I’ll try to not rant on this thread again!

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Firebird83 · 20/02/2021 17:23

My 2.5 year old boy was/is similar, he’s definitely a “high needs” child. I think it’s just his temperament. I found the first 18 months the most difficult but he is gradually improving. It will get better!

Sillymummies123 · 21/02/2021 07:34

@Firebird83

My 2.5 year old boy was/is similar, he’s definitely a “high needs” child. I think it’s just his temperament. I found the first 18 months the most difficult but he is gradually improving. It will get better!
Thank you.

He’s woken up with that ‘I’m going to take you down, asshole’ look in his eyes this morning. Fingers crossed. He’s back at childcare tomorrow, but delightful though that is I do feel uneasy about actually needing him to be there for survival. We’re trying to get him into drawing, duplo and crafts but he just screams blue murder and tantrums when we try anything new. He loves being outside doing things so I am praying for an end to lockdown now.

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Tvscreen · 24/02/2021 21:36

I feel like I could have written this post. I’ve been where you are and appreciate just how hard it is. My DS is now 25 months old and until he was about 19/20 months he cried and had multiple tantrums throughout the day. It was so bad that I avoided going to parks/playgrounds over the summer as he’d throw a tantrum as soon as we got there and I felt as if every other parent was staring at me in judgment.

It has, however, gotten much better. We still have tantrums but the source of the tantrums are more obvious and he’s quicker to settle.

I am convinced a lot of his bad mood is down to poor sleep. He has always woken up early and found it hard to go back to sleep and this sets the tone for the day. The rare occasions where he has slept through until 7:30/8 he has been an absolute joy.

I think he’s slowly getting used to his lack of sleep so isn’t as grumpy but he does love a whine about being stuck in the pram.

It’s so much better now than it was at 18 months. I know it’s hard to see through it, especially when you feel broken but please hang in there x