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My 3.7 yr old is waking early and roaming around the house.....HELP!

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muppetgirl · 18/10/2007 07:50

Hi.

My lovely boy has always been a bit of a thinker and if he sees a problem he does like to solve it!

When he was 2 ish and transfered into his cotbed (he climbed out of the cot at just under 2) he would get out of bed and roam around the house. We found him in daddy's study having turned the computer on and pressing all sorts of buttons. We put a babygate on his door and he moved his bedside cabinet to climb over it. We took the cabinet out and he then worked out how to open the gate and still wandered. Goes in the kitchen, get salt cellar and grinds it all over the sofa....

We bought him a rabbit clock from Great Little Trading Company which he understood when it was asleep he had to stay in his room and when it woke up he could come downstairs. The first night he came down after about an hour in bed saying 'the rabbit is awake now, I can get up' He'd spent the hour fiddling with the clock and worked out how to change the time so the rabbit would wake up.

We put the rabbit clock on the shelf above his chest of drawers (about 5 foot in height) This worked for a week or so but then he used the chest of drawers as a step ladder and climbed up onto the shelves, got the clock down, fiddled with it and broke it.....

Things did calm down though and we've had nothing for a while.

...until 2 weeks ago when he decided that he was going to come downstairs and play in the living room getting all his toys out, turning the light on etc. I didn't mind at first but he got noisier and noiser and also earlier. Yesterday it was 5 oclock

When you speak to him about it he says 'I should stay in my room but I don't want to, it's boring, I'm not tired' etc etc. So he knows exactly what he's doing I've moved his more favourite toys upstairs to his bedroom all to no avail. We've said he can get up if he's not tired and play in his room, he turns the light on and we're happy he's safe and okay but don't want him wandering around the house.

I am 37 + prgt at the mo and do not want to be woken up so early especially when I sleep so little during the night anyway!!!

Stairgates don't work, sticker charts quite frankly bore him ('I just won't have the sticker then mummy...') Reasoning works as he understands the problem and can tell you what he's supposed to do -he just won't do it!!! Taking toys away, access to telly don't seem to work either as he is just happey to say 'I'm not allowed the telly this afternoon as I didn't stay in my bedroom until mummy/daddy said I could come out'

I also understand this could be a reaction to the approaching baby brother being born -which he seems very excited about - but has anyone got any other strategies we could try before we all go mad???

Many thanks, will reply later as off to nursery with him soon.

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muppetgirl · 18/10/2007 09:39

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TigerFeetInLovelyNewShoes · 18/10/2007 09:51

Oh god I sympathise with you muppetgirl, my 3.4yo dd is the amazing non sleeping child. We have tried everything you have said, to no avail

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TenderheartBear · 18/10/2007 09:52

sorry i have no advice but you have my sympathies. my ds2 has figured out how to work the stairgate and will push his brothers toybox across the room to climb onto the windowsill (he is nearly 16 months!!) he's due to move in to his brothers room soon so i can see trouble ahead,, possibly just like yours i think.

TenderheartBear · 18/10/2007 09:53

chains around his ankle and bed!!!

im joking!!

pointydog · 18/10/2007 10:12

what time does he normally get up?

I think you've got two choices -

a) get him to behave himself when he gets up (if he spills salt, he spends however long it takes to clear it all up etc). Maybe he likes to see that he's wound you up, so just stay calm, firm and ignore
b) get up at the same time as he does.

sarahsails · 18/10/2007 10:21

He sounds bright.

My DS1 (just 4) started doing the same thing when I was pregnant.

Have you asked him why he wants to be downstairs when he could be playing in his bedroom? Why is downstairs more interesting when there is noone around and he favourite toy is upstairs?

I think the fact that he is getting noisier suggests he's doing it to get some attention. When I was pregnant before the summer (DS2 is 5 months) DS1 realised I was very tired and couldn't really be bothered, however hard I tried to be engaged with him. (He was a nightmare before the baby was born.)

Now he has learnt how to use the computer so I let him play on CbEEBies (there is a link on the desktop) till we get up. It's safe as he can't surf to other sites and we have net nanny. It's mentally challenging and keeps him entertained and quiet....Mind you have to be quite stern about him turning it off when it's time for breakfast.

Sorry, long and rambly

muppetgirl · 18/10/2007 13:05

He has always been an early riser generally around 6am which was fine as we agreed he could play in his room which he did. Now the mornings are darker he seems to be getting earlier, yesterday was 5am to which I said absolutely not!

He goes to bed around 6.30pm as he gets tired if we keep him up later he still gets up around 6 so later bedtime doesn't = later sleeping with him. He's always been a 10-12 hour sleeper since he gave up his 2 naps at the same time when he went into his cotbed (why do I have to sleep in this bed when I can PLAY PLAY PLAY????)

He's a fascinating chracter and does seem to see life a little differently - a series of challenges in which to overcome mummy/daddy/problems around the house ect.

I just wish bribery worked with him!!

I might try a lamp that has a timer plug that when it is on it's time to get up and take the main lightbulb to his overhead light away so he has no control over the light in his room. If it's dark he can't play! (He'll still be fine to go to the toilet as he has to cross his room in the dark to get to the light adn once the doors open we always leave the bathroom light on for him)

He can't move the chest of drawers so the plug behind would at least not be tampered with....

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muppetgirl · 18/10/2007 13:07

...but that doesn't solve the coming downstairs bit

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pointydog · 18/10/2007 13:07

not so much bribery as teaching consequences. If he messes the house and does things he's not meant to, he spends his time tidying andmaking right.

muppetgirl · 18/10/2007 13:10

We do that, I've even had to have my hand on his picking each brick/toy up that he's got out when he's amde a meal out of it. Not done that with the salt though so could try that if he does it again.

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wheelsonthebus · 18/10/2007 13:13

we have stair gates at the door entrance to my dd's room. if she wakes up, she has to call out and then we come. it's to stop her climbing up the stairs to the loft or down stairs to kitchen. it does work, all the stair gates i know are adjustable so shd work with you.

muppetgirl · 18/10/2007 13:18

I'm making him out to be a demon child and he's really not!! But had his first nursery parent evening this week and the teacher said that he was
a bright spark (lovely to hear)
had it all going on up top (lovely to hear) but is very independednt (hmmmmm....)
and knows his own mind (yep, agree there...)
and only joins in the adult led activities when he wants to and can be less than cooperative if he doesn't want to do something (ohhhhhh yes, that's him)

He gets consequences and can parrot them back to you, tell others when he has been naughty and is quite happy to tell them 'No telly today as I've been naughty'

...he just doesn't care iyswim!

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wheelsonthebus · 18/10/2007 14:51

sarahsails - what's net nanny?

sarahhal · 18/10/2007 14:59

Oh you have my sympathies - we have had this for about eighteen months!!! We have tried everything you mention - he currently doesn't have a light in his room but as there is one in the hallway he just puts that on. DH even resorted to turning all the upstairs lights off at the fuse box at one point

He is now 4.5 and has almost stopped going downstairs. He still wakes really early and I am dreading the clocks changing. He started school this time and I think that that is tiring him out a bit more, but he is also all over the place with his emotions about starting school

He sounds exactly the same as your DS in his reactions - hope you find a solution!!

sarahsails · 18/10/2007 15:49

wheelsonthebus

www.netnanny.com/

It's software so you can control what they look at.

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