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I am LOSING MY MIND over my teething baby WHEN WILL IT EVER END???????

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MrsJohnCusack · 03/09/2007 10:09

so I've been on here before saying is it teething - well it was as the tooth has now appeared - but only the tip of it and it is taking an eternity to come through - think the other bottom one is on the way out too. He is 6 months in a couple of days, fully breastfed, no solids (well apart from copious amounts of paracetemol and teething powders)

I had 1 week where all the teething seemed to suddenly stop and DS slept 10-12 hours a night. Just to give me a taste of how things could be....then for the last 8 nights it's a disaster. He has slept in the evening more or less from a few weeks old, but not now - 30 mins maybe then he's up screaming. He'll only sleep on me- my back is wrecked from lying on my back cradling him and also I don't sleep properly as I'm terrified he'll get too hot (although it's still winter here in NZ so it is cold at night, especially with no central heating. He's nice and warm but I'm freezing as can't have the duvet on me properly). If I put him down he wakes up and bellows. Can't co sleep - it just doesn't work, and it doesn't really make any difference (Have tried). The cot is right next to me anyhow with the side down.

He has purple bags under his eyes cos he's so knackered. I have cried hysterically every night and I am a wreck. I wish I didn't get so wound up, but I do, and I am struggling in the days with 2 yr old DD because I am so knackered and stressed & she is playing up and taking advantage, and she gets told off so much and I feel bad for her.

There is no medised here. He has had as much paracetemol as he can, we have teething powders and bonjela. He was checked at the doctors on Saturday and has no ear trouble or anyting. Every night I think maybe he'll get some sleep in but it just keeps going on. I am supposed to be going out a lot of nights over the next 3 weeks - 13 in a row at one point - and he's just going to be at home screaming with DH which means I won't enjoy the show I'm playing in. Plus I have an audition in a few weeks which is really important to me, but no hope of practicing now as no evenings, so will cock it up.

I know people are going through much, much worse things, but I am really struggling here. I am so, so stressed and angry, I can't calm down and I'm terrified I'm going to hurt someone, or break something. I hate DH just because everything is so horrid, and I hate getting up and I know it's shit having small children but I am just rubbish at this, I really am.

If you've read all that, I'm really sorry for the moan, but I'm so, so fed up. Any teething remedies I haven't tried? HOw long can a tooth take to come through? It doesn't seem to have moved for about 4 days.

I'm going to regeret posting this, but I'm going to do it anyway and then it's OUT. Self indulgent yet, but I am so sad that my lovely happy baby seems to have disappeared and I can't help him.

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MrsJohnCusack · 03/09/2007 10:18

OH I am sorry I posted this self indulgent nonsense.

my father was in A&E again today which just finished me off altogether, he is out now and relatively fine. I think that's just made me feel worse.

I don't want PND again but I feel I'm heading there, and I 'm FURIOUS, I made such an effort not to go there again.

you may all just ignore me now and I'm going to look for some light hearted threads and head back to Scrabble

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fluffyanimal · 03/09/2007 10:18

Sorry you're having such a bad time of it. I don't really have any suggestions but just wanted to let you know I'm feeling for you.

Teeth can take ages to fully emerge - weeks even, but I've always found that once it's cut through the gum the symptoms stop. Could there be another problem that means your lo doesn't want to sleep on his back, e.g. silent reflux?

Would you be prepared to introduce a bottle (ebm if you don't want formula) so that your dh could take some of the night sessions and give you a break?

saltire · 03/09/2007 10:21

Can you get junior nurofen/ibuprofen? We had this with DS2,it's awful isn't it. You really need to get back to your doctor and tell him what you have just written down. You aren't doing yourself, or the baby or your DD any good being in the state you are, and you need to tell him that.

Ds2 used to get 2 or 3 teethe coming through at once, and it seemed to go on for weeks. We went to the doc, and he told us to give him 10ml of calpol, and 5ml of junior nurofen togehter. Then its something like calpol 4 hourly and nurofen 6 hourly, so he ende up getting them every two hours i.e calpol at 6pm, nurofen at 8pm then calpol again at 10pm. We only had to do this in the evening, and some people will maybe say its not a good idea, but it worked for us - eventually.
Please though, do go back to your doctor or your HV and tell them how you are feeling

saltire · 03/09/2007 10:21

I was going to suggest maybe PND?

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MrsJohnCusack · 03/09/2007 10:30

oh that's a good idea re the nurofen/ibrupofen - am pretty sure I can get that

I am hesitant over whether I'm getting PND - had it after DD and it was different. WAs fine when it was all going well but my disproportionate response to this week makes me think it's not quite right.

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MrsJohnCusack · 03/09/2007 10:35

oh hello janitor I never came back to that thread, was stuck in the bedroom with him for about the next day!

yes I think I might send him out in the pram with DH. Car seat not working tonight

he does have a cold which is prob bothering him as well. Yesterday he started grunting like he did when he had bronchiolitis a few months back, but I used the inhaler we were given then and he seems OK now

I don't think anyone in this house has been well for months, I think we are all run down and miserable. hell, I'vve even spontaneously lost weight which is a miracle!

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TigerFeet · 03/09/2007 10:36

Oh Mrs JC I saw the thread title and thought it might be you

I don't think you necessarily have PND, I reckon you are stressed and sleep deprived beyond endurance. I second what others have said about letting him sleep in his pram/car seat. If he must sleep on your chest, couldn't you lie with a duvet over your legs and then cardigans/fleeces on your top half, leaving just enough normalness exposed for ds to sleep on? At least you won't be cold. I used to find with dd that I could sleep sitting up, dd on my chest or legs, propped up with cushions on the sofa and feet up along the sofa iyswim so that I could change position if I got uncomfortable lying down flat.

Can't dh take him out for a couple of hours once dd is asleep so that you can sleep/practise?

ProjectIcarusinhercar · 03/09/2007 10:40

Mrs JC my first was like this and I thought it was teething. Having read others descriptions of silent reflux since I wish I had tried gaviscon etc in case it was that it would have saved me a year of hell. It started at 3 months btw apparently reflux sometimes doesn't manifest until then.

Try it. At least to rule it out?

ProjectIcarusinhercar · 03/09/2007 10:41

The rpam/car seat/sleeping on you thing sounds like reflux too.

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MrsJohnCusack · 03/09/2007 11:01

I've vaguely wondered about reflux becasuse he's always been quite sicky - but always happy with it.
now however he seems to be getting less keen on lying down so it's definitely a thought. Am thinking of trying cranial osteopath too.

he is soooooo short of sleep, he must be exhausted he's been quite sick & farty today too

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saltire · 03/09/2007 11:03

It's worth getting it checked out - the reflux, and while you are there just mention how shattered and upset you are feeling through the lack of sleep.

BandofMothers · 03/09/2007 11:06

DD2 would settle for a few days then start again, grrrrrrrr. Does seem to take a few weeks for them to come thru all the way, but I find once they cut completely the actual growing doesn't seem to bother mine. But if they continue to fuss usually means there are more.

Some kids seem to teeth constantly.

BandofMothers · 03/09/2007 11:09

Agree about just letting him sleep no matter where he is, also get someone to mail you some medised.

I will if you want me to. I swear by it as it stops the snot and I find that is what wakes them mostly, coughing cos of snot, or not being able to breathe.

I am serious about mailing some, my email is [email protected] and if you want to mail me your address and I will go out today and send you some.

ProjectIcarusinhercar · 03/09/2007 11:10

My dd1 used have really dark shadows poor wee thing. I did take her to a cranial osteopath who spent 45 mins checking her over.

She then turned to me and said" I am so sorry"

"what?" said I panicking and slightly, guiltily delighted that we might have a cause/cure.

"there is nothing wrong with her"

I then sobbed for 20 mins in her office.

TigerFeet · 03/09/2007 11:13

I would be happy to send Medised too... mentioned it on the BigMoFo's thread but not sure whether you can send medication internationally???

BabiesEverywhere · 03/09/2007 11:15

My DD sicked up all the time, I think it was linked to the cow's milk I drank (I use to drink a lot of it) once I stop drinking cows milk she stopped throwing up.

Double ditto don't move a sleeping baby.

I know you use a sling (not sure what type but if you wear his down, i.e. walk around until he is sleeping in the sling, in a front carry in either a ring sling or a mei tai, it is possible to lean over a pram/bed/moses basket and untie the sling so the baby is sleeping on the sling on the bed/pram. I would do this to get my DD sleeping on our bed or her moses basket and leave my DH watching her (worried she would get taggled in the sling if left on her own) and I would get some sleep.

Migth be worth a try ?

I found if I got to have a couple of hour

BabiesEverywhere · 03/09/2007 11:17

My DD sicked up all the time, I think it was linked to the cow's milk I drank (I use to drink a lot of it) once I stop drinking cows milk she stopped throwing up.

Double ditto don't move a sleeping baby.

I know you use a sling, if you wear him down, i.e. walk around until he is sleeping in the sling, in a front carry in either a ring sling or a mei tai. It is possible to lean over a pram/bed/moses basket and untie the sling so the baby is sleeping on the sling on the bed/pram. I would do this to get my DD sleeping on our bed or her moses basket and leave my DH watching her (worried she would get taggled in the sling if left on her own) and I would get some sleep.

Might be worth a try ?

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MrsJohnCusack · 03/09/2007 11:20

oh thank you so much over medised - it was the only thing that worked for DD and I really miss it

am going to try and find if it can be posted. and I have paypal to pay for it if that helps

yes I sppose I'd better go to the docs. I miss my old GP. The one here seems nice, but I don't know her at all.

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RubySlippers · 03/09/2007 11:21

he sounds refluxy to me
ask for infant gaviscon when you go the GP
my DS had silent reflux and also had purple shadows under his eyes as his sleep was so poor
sorry you are having such a rough time of it

saltire · 03/09/2007 11:22

I would send you some too. See how he gets on with the calpol and nurofen together first. It worked for Ds2, in that it meant he was going between 4and 6 hours sleeping instead of waking every 30 minutes for and hour or two.

I think though that there are rules about sending out medications internatinally!

saltire · 03/09/2007 11:23

Also agree with what everyone says about not moving a sleeping baby, if he's asleep in the pram, then cover him up and get into bed yourself, even if he only sleeps for a couple of hours, its still some respite for you

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MrsJohnCusack · 03/09/2007 11:32

the sling doesn't seem to bedoing the trick at the mo

he;sd asleep on my lap now poor lamb. I am going to get some nurofen tomorrow - why didn;t I think of that before? I can't think straight

I'm thinkingthere's no reason medicine couldn't be sent by post really?

projectIcarus, I'd have cried too

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MrsJohnCusack · 03/09/2007 11:37

no you can't send it through the post - have just checked

I will get the nurofen tomorrowq thougfh and give that a bash

I feel much better for getting this all out though, thanks everyone!

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