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DS demanding that I smack his bottom!

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AuldAlliance · 09/08/2007 15:03

DS (2.5) has started demanding to be smacked, during tantrums and after bad behaviour.
We don't smack him, never have.
When he gets like this, I tell him I don't want to smack him and that we don't hurt each other in this family, but he goes on, presenting his bottom and ordering me to smack it, saying he wants me to hurt him.
I wonder if it's because he sees other kids being smacked (it's exceedingly common around where we live, and friends who recently came to visit smacked their DD, aged 1.10, about 4 times while they were here) and therefore he thinks it's the norm, almost as if he were being left out.
Any insights or advice? I find it really disturbing to see him begging like that...

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witchandchips · 09/08/2007 15:07

Could he be that he sees it as a way out of the tantrum and thinks that after this it will all be forgotton. Could you think of another less damaging ritual that closes the eposide? Kiss mummy and say sorry for example

bubblagirl · 09/08/2007 15:11

wow thats a first normally there afraid of a threat like that but yes maybe as when your friends child got smacked there werew no other consequences such as a naughty spot and being made to apologise just say as you already are it s not ok to smack and we do not hurt just tell him when he has done wrong he gets naughty spot so not to ask to be smacked or he will go there really not sure whta to say you dont want him telling other people to smack him incase they think you do so you do neefd to find a way to get him out of saying it

whomovedmychocolate · 09/08/2007 15:13

That's quite sweet in a way

I'd also tell him that he should go to a naughty step because being ostracised (even for a minute) by loving parents is far worse than a smack IMHO.

You sound like a very sensible parent to me

AuldAlliance · 09/08/2007 15:17

I don't know if he sees it as a way out, I'm having trouble working out the reasoning behind it. I find it really worrying.
Before this, when we did something he hated (wash his hair, change his clothes and other acts of heinous torture ), he would scream and complain and then as soon as it was over, scream "again! again!". If asked, he would say that no, he didn't actually want us to do it again, but that was still his initial reaction.
Am starting to fear that he has a strange masochistic streak...
Unless it is, in this case, that he knows he is out of control, and is asking for a swift way to end his tantrum.
Naughty spot might do it, we hadn't been using that method.

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MyEye · 09/08/2007 15:20

That is so upsetting. Not sure what you can do apart from telling him you don't smack and never will.
Maybe he associates smacking/hairwashing etc with unusual amounts of attention? Might this be a possibility?
(Incidentally, I would be livid if houseguests smacked their children at whatever age but 1.10? Is this for real? in front of mine. How did you react to it? Could you say anything?)
Sorry, back to the OP. Agree, maybe he's looking for a marker for his bad behaviour. Time-out/naughty step might suit him.

bubblagirl · 09/08/2007 15:26

well i use naughty pot and it works a treat and they do say that children like structure maybe he wants a responce from you for his bad behaviour so tell him he will go in naughty spot my son very rarely plays me up now as he knows he'll go i dont threaten it i do it and what can i say i'm so glad for the naughty spot its true they don tdislike you for punishing them they thrive on structure and my son is proof i no longer feel guilty i think every time he goes its his lesson in life and by me carrying it through i've kept my control on him good luck

bubblagirl · 09/08/2007 15:26

naughty spot lol

AuldAlliance · 09/08/2007 15:41

I don't know if he associates smacking, hairwashing etc., with extra attention. It's possible.

He certainly wants attention at mealtimes, as he has begun telling long rambling nonsense tales if DH and I get into an adult conversation. His language skills are excellent and as people tend to comment on it in front of him (which I hate), I think he tends to show off about that.

He is still an only child, and as he is being brought up bilingually, with my language the minority one, I tend to listen to him and talk to him a lot, more than other parents maybe. He was a very needy baby (gastric reflux) and toddler and has only recently learnt to spend more time playing or 'reading' on his own. I feel (and others have also said), that I spend a lot of time with him, pay him a lot of attention, listen to what he has to say, and always explain things carefully to him, while trying to impose clear boundaries on what is and isn't acceptable. Maybe he's just testing those boundaries.

I think he's going through a bit of a scared phase. He often talks about whether he's a big boy or a little boy, and about what he can and can't do, as if his growing independence worried him while making him feel proud. He's waking at night again, after months of sleeping through.

DH wants to record DS yelling "Mummy, smack my bottom, j'en ai envie" for posterity (humiliation in the future, more like!), as he finds it hysterical, but I can't laugh about it right now.

My Eye, I didn't say anything to the visitors, which I now regret. The mother is an old friend, whom I now see for only brief periods and very rarely. She's been through a really rough time since the birth, is quite depressed and a bit lost and I chickened out of criticising her parenting methods.

Sorry, a bit of a ramble...

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bubblagirl · 09/08/2007 15:56

ramble away but maybe you could just explain how your son wants to be smacked which could be from seeing her smack her child just say your not critisizing her parenting methods but its just a method you dont want to use with your son

maybe jsut try the naughty corner maybe in some ways he is being made to act grown up but also maybe trying too keep him as a baby also call him big boy and don't call him baby i did this called my ds 2.3 mummys baby but when he got to 2 only ever called him big boy it could well be all for attention thye say if they feel they haven't got your attention they will act negative maybe set little routines through out day what you will do we have play do time then he has quiet time to watch pingu and i'll do whatn i need to do then we play and i praise everything good maybe he jsut needs this for a while as he may jsut be at the age maybe he wants to stay a baby just make him aware being a big boy is great

MrsWeasley · 09/08/2007 15:58

my DS loves to have him bottom smacked (not too hard) but he will actually ask for me to smack his bum he doesnt have to be in a mood. He just likes it!!!!!!!!

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