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Is it normal for 4 year old ds to be this scared?

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mommydear · 03/08/2007 12:22

Ds is turning 4 in a few days. The last couple of nights he gets nightmares and last night when I told him to go to his room for time out he got histerical and said he is afraid to be alone because it is dark outside.He slept with us last night. Is this normal?

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FrannyandZooey · 03/08/2007 12:24

I think it is normal to suddenly get more fearful around age 4, yes. If you don't like having him in your bed, and there's room, you could put a mattress on the floor for him. Sometimes knowing they can sleep with you if necessary lessens the fear anyway.

A night light or those glow stars might help? And have you read the story "can't you sleep, little bear" which is about a little bear who is afraid of the dark outside his cave?

hermykne · 03/08/2007 19:20

franny i think that book actually alerted my 2 to "being afraid" and i have kinda banned it for awhile at nighttime.

tassisssss · 03/08/2007 19:30

i think they often go through a scared phase at this age. ds certainly started having to have the light on/door open at this sort of age when he'd previously slept in black-outed room

ds is also scared of bits of fireman sam, brum etc

FrannyandZooey · 03/08/2007 21:45

Hermykne oh no! I know what you mean, we have a story tape about "being afraid of monsters in the dark" and I always try to ff through it. Usually too busy gassing on here to remember in time

frazzledbutcalm · 07/08/2007 10:42

Kids do go through fear stages. Guess you have to just be sympathetic and bear with it. Wouldn't advise night light etc or he'll become dependent on it. Dd now 8 and has suddenly developed fear of lifts, getting locked in car, doors closing on her - silly irrational things that i have no idea where they've come from! I just try to quickly reassure but don't dwell on anything as i don't want her to really think there may be a problem.

MaloryTowersHasManners · 07/08/2007 10:43

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filthymindedvixen · 07/08/2007 10:54

my ds is still afraid of the dark. He is 9...

Budababe · 07/08/2007 10:58

My DS is 6 and currently sleeping on a mattress on floor in our room. Partly heat related - our room only one with air-conditioning but has been sleeping with one of us for ages.

Doesn't bother me too much. Presumably he will grow out of it before he leaves for uni!

ejt1764 · 07/08/2007 11:03

My 4 yr old ds started being afraid of the dark just before he was 4 too ... we have put a nightlight in his room, but it one that you charge up during the day, and then it discharges slowly through the night - getting dimmer and dimmer.

Ikea do them - here

I've also been tempted by this one - it may find its way into ds's (or my!) stocking at Christmas.

We have an Ikea light, and it seems to be doing the trick!

ghosty · 07/08/2007 11:08

When DS was this age he used to creep into our room and go to sleep our bed ...
Not IN our bed, next to one of us, but ON our bed ...
I would wake up with cramp from a heavy weight on my feet and would find DS asleep at the bottom of the bed, rather like a pet dog ...
Wasn't there a thread somewhere that said that little boys were like puppies?
He was always a crap sleeper and pretty scaredy but I was happy for him to get into bed with us as I was heavily pg and couldn't be getting up in the night all the time.
He is 7 and a half now and still sleeps with two nightlights in his room and two in the hallway outside.

witchandchips · 07/08/2007 11:15

my ds has nightmares sometimes and needs me to get in bed with him to cuddle him back to sleep.

Think one of the problems when they are young is that they are not used to the idea of feeling scared. They also need to know that story usually end with the monsters gone and its clever little children who get rid of them. Thats why fairy storys and playing at monsters are so important.

oliveoil · 07/08/2007 11:20

dd1 (4) sometimes has this

I just get in her bed until she calms down

it is not that often and I don't give a hoot for rod for back theories tbh

dd2 is nearly 3 and can be found in our bed a couple of nights a week, rest of the time she sleeps through

I think they just have nightmares and need comforting

both mine have a nightlight

oliveoil · 07/08/2007 11:22

my nightlight

Wolfgirl · 07/08/2007 11:23

Hi Mommydear, I posted on this last week, as we are going through exactly the same! Sorry to hear you are struggling with it too.

My DS is 4 in Nov. and been having night-terrors for months now. He can wake several times a night - screaming out in panic, in a trance like state. Only mummy will do to soothe him back to sleep, so its quite exhausting.

He doesnt seem to recall the 'sessions' (for want of a better term) in the morning either. He has in the past told me, that there are things in his head, like the bad wolf or even a bear from the Goldilocks stories.

Ive tried everything for an easy wind down and to empty his head of stuff with nice stories, but just like our brains, he recalls events from the day or recent past which have been disturbing to him.

Like MalloryT, I reach for the matchsticks and get on with it. But it's not good, and all you want is for the poor might to have a restful good night sleep.

We do have night lights, well....twinkly pink stars which DS likes very much - he tells me. so when things get really bad, I switch those on (but DD shares a room at the mo, so can be difficult). But its not the 'dark' that wakes him, its the dreams.

Hope you get it sorted, but Im guessing that this is very common, and one mother of a wave we all have to surf!

PSCMUM · 07/08/2007 11:32

yes! I have an 8 year old and a nearly 5 year old, both of whom went throu phases , at around 4, of being scared, terrified of everything you can think of - spiders, swimming, other people, swings, fun, food, you name it! They are both fine and brave now!

carocaro · 07/08/2007 18:06

ds1 went through something similar when we moved house, a landing light, and some of his Teddies at the door, guarding, did the trick, also one of those baby things that makes light patterns on the ceiling with soothing music helped him relax in his new room, he also used to go nuts when we went down motorway slip roads, which he has now grown out of, which is great as we use the M6 a lot!

Wolfgirl · 08/08/2007 09:43

...and another night of no ruddy sleep!!!!!!!!!! What can be done!!??!! Im absolutely hanging! I took DS into my bed in the end, finally fell asleep at 4am, and Im up for work at 6am. Had to put a pillow between me and him as he kicks like a blimmin mule.

Help! anyone!!!!! help! It really is affecting the poor lad, he cant cope the next day either, as had such poor sleep.

Aaaaaaaaarrrrrghhhhhhhhhh

ejt1764 · 08/08/2007 16:55

wolfgirl - you have my unending sympathy - I've confronted the fears with ds - telling him that special mammy magic allows me to teach him a special trick ... and we blow the baddies / monsters away - we have practiced it with him awake, and if he has a nightmare, then I gently talk to him, and remind him that he just needs to blow them away - it stops him panicking, and calms down his breathing.

hth

Wolfgirl · 08/08/2007 19:41

Hi ejt1764. thanks for that. I have tried talking in the past, maybe its time to try and talk again, about what is real and what is pretend.

Right now he is in my bed, watching Jungle book! no doubt he will fall asleep, and Im hoping we will all get a good nights sleep.

Have a good night yourself

mummymagic · 08/08/2007 19:54

Hey, i am with ejt. I think you need to empower him (although this is from my own childhood rather than as a parent). I remember rationalising aged about 7 that when the scary cats from Dr Who came (blush] it was ok because they were scared of clapping so all you had to do was clap and they'd go away. And I knew it was all lies. BUt I knew the scary cats were all lies too so it was a big psychological trick that worked...

Rambling a bit, but can you ask him what might make the bears or wolf go away? Love the breathing idea though.

marymoocow · 08/08/2007 20:01

my ds has been going through this. He went for a sleepover at Nannies and was talking to her about it. She had a gem stone which she got out and polished it up with him and called it a magic stone. He slept really well, but wanted one for himself. We went to the Robin Hood Festival at the weekend and they were selling stones. Cost me £3 for an orange heart shaped one (orange being his favourite colour), but touch wood it has worked. He puts it by his bed and rubs it every night.

Don't know if that's any help.

Wolfgirl · 08/08/2007 20:04

Mmmm....some good ideas there ladies. I think Im going to try an ANGEL. Tell him that he has special angel and that the angel will fight off all the monsters - which are pretend anyway. Might have to buy an Angel dolly or suchlike.

Might work....LOL

marymoocow · 08/08/2007 20:05

good luck

Pitchounette · 08/08/2007 20:31

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