Ds2 is teaching dd2 to say "Mum is stupid, Mum is rubbish".

[TooTicky]

And I'm too tired to deal with it

Oh mate....

How old are they?

5 and 2

Teach him, 'And ds is sleeping in the shed'

Is it just something they're doing today? Or is it ongoing?

One-off really. Well, sort of. Feeling like crap so it's bothering me.

I'm consoled by this - ds1 and ds2 (5 and 3 have been calling me fatface and chanting crapmummy all day. It's really got me down

Just say clearly and calmly 'rude children get no supper/bedtime story/whatever' and walk away. Ignore ignore ignore. Today is not the day to deal with it. I see from another thread you had a tough day yesterday as well. Time for Tooticky time, methinks. {{hugs}}

zookeeper it really hits where it hurts, doesn't it?

Okay, off to run bath and be strong. I think.

Yes. A stern comment then ignore it I reckon. They'll be on to something else tomorrow.

Something else charming and adorable that is...

Yes Ticky -it's worse if you're tired - get them to bed and have an early night yourself.

Time out/ naughty step?

I agree its hard to show no emotion, when the horrors decide to wind you up.

Tell them, "Oh well, if I'm rubbish I don't need to take you to the park then, do I? So if you want me to do nice things with you, you'd better jolly well be nice to me. Otherwise there'll be no park, no icecreams, no TV and early bedtime."

Bugger that for a game of soldiers. Time for some serious sucking up, if they want a decent summer holiday, rather than 6 weeks of hanging round their bedroom while you mess about on the puter or drink coffee/wine and read the papers.

I'm saving some cute T-shirts for your little terror, btw.

smack their backsides!!! cheeky little buggers!!![sorry channelling my mother there]

Mum is the keeper of all treats. Ergo, annoy mum, treats are zero. I would say, don't deal with it, simply respond. Of course you are not rubbish, we all know that! You rock!

Tell them, "Oh well, if I'm rubbish I don't need to take you to the park then, do I? So if you want me to do nice things with you, you'd better jolly well be nice to me. Otherwise there'll be no park, no icecreams, no TV and early bedtime."

I not sure I agree. I think that the children are trying to get a reaction like that. I think its a lot simpler to tell the children that they go to the room (for 5min and 2 mins respectively) and repeat this process until they learn some basic manners.

At this age they need a quick, short and sharp punishment. There needs to be a clear link between the behaviour and the punishment. (Ie. you can stay on your own in your room until you learn to be polite) Certainly the two year old would not understand the connection between not going to the park and being rude.

Turns out I was pre-menstrual yesterday, think that's why it got to me so much. And ds2 was cross with me because I was too tired to do anything. Anyway, onwards and upwards and thank you for all your lovely replies.

And thank you Frogs - that is very kind