PLease help!!! How do I get my son to poo on the toilet and not save it for his nappy at night?

[muppetgirl]

Good god!!
Advice needed please.
my ds 3.3 is fantastic at wees and does them all by himself but the bl**dy poos are doing my head in?!?!?!?!

He was quite good at pooing on the toilet and then moved classes at nursery to where (i have since found out but wasn't initially told) that the ch (all 3) go to the toilet by themselves unless they ask for help!!! (Out of classroom over corridor and toilets in a block not in shouting distance)

Since then he has hardly done any poos on the toilet....

We have tried

1. Nicely nicely 2.Harry the frog toilet seat
2. Bribary
3. Sricker charts (He couldn't give a stuff!)
4. Good mum/ bad dad & good dad/bad mum
5. Going balistic (when he announced he had pooed his pants and then burts out laughing...)

He can speak the speak ('Big boys poo on the toilet, babies poo in their nappies....')

But WILL NOT POO ON THE TOILET CONSISTENTLY BUT SAVES IT FOR HIS NAPPY. [ANGRY]

We've been at this since summer last year.

They're all different. My dc who was dry at just 2y came out of nappies day and night at the same time. No problems, just did it. It doesn't hurt to try different things, though, as one of them might work. I came to the conclusion that although reminders and encouragement do seem to help, in the end it's more down to when they are mature enough physically and mentally to be dry (obviously providing there is no physical problem).

We have just solved this very problem ourselves with our DS2 who is now 4.

We tried the throw the nappies away approach about a year ago(when he was 3) but he then just held onto the poo and beacme very constipated so we gave up and returned to the poo in nappy at night.

Appraoching being 4 I kept telling him that they'd be no more nappies after he was 4. he was actaully quite keen on the idea this time and finally did want to be a big boy.

BUT when it came to being4, we threw the nappies out, but same problem, he held onto the poo and beacme very constipated.

(see my threads from about 6 weeks ago whan I was beside myself with worry about his constiaption and fearing he'd never use the loo)

We went to the docs got senna and movicol (already using lactulose) for the constipation so that he couldn't hold it anymore. he then had a couple of days when he HAD to poo and did rush for the loo and was SO pleased when he did do it.

Since then it's been miraculous, he just goes every night.

He was wetting the bed evry night after we got rid of the nappies,but we resigned ourselves to this and just got the waterproof sheets. But again miraculously after a couple of weeks he's just stopped wetting and is now dry every night.

Honestly I thougt it would never happen, just a few weeks ago.

People often talk about some hormone having to kick in before they are ready to be dry on a night. What do you all think? If Ds has a completely soaking pull-up every morning, despite having a wee last thing at night, I think I am waiting for some sign that he might be ready.

Hi all,
bathed, cleaned teeth and storied my little, hehem, BIG boy to bed. We did a dry run of what he should do if he needs the toilet and I've put 'Harry' (his frog toilet seat) on the bathroom toilet with a box so he can sit on it.
Have spare duvet with fresh bed linen and fresh pillow with spare sheet and pajamas in airing cupboard......

Feel very strange, like its a real turning point. My little boy is moving away from being my baby......
But very proud of him and he obviously noticed something was different as he insisted on 'family hug mummy' which means we all hug and kiss each other stupidly.....

Just checked him and he's fine,

...so far!

Hi MP.
Take it he's not needed a poo tonight then?
At least it sounds like he's gone to bed nappyless without complaining.

Hope you get a good night's sleep!
Fingers crossed for you.

Sorry, MG not MP!

Just a thought - probably obvious - we left the bathroom light on all night, for quite a while.

Thanks Mrs cp
yes we've left the light on and i told him it would be on -didn't know whether to leave his door open but haven't yet.

No, no poos when he'd just got into bed -funny that! I think he really has/had us round his little finger....

I'll let you all know how we're getting on
Muppet

Just a quick good luck ,let us know how it goes .I'm also planing on trying my dd without the nappies this week so will be interested to hear of your progress.Although as many wise mners have said they are all different and will do it when they're ready.

Hi all,

Re the poo front
I love my grown up boy
I checked him when I went to bed, nothing and had a broken nights sleep as I was worried he would wake up wet and be upset but he didn't, he slept right through until somewhere between 5-6 am when I heard him take himself to the toilet!!!!!

He then had another hour in bed and then around 6 went to the toilet again and then came downstairs insisting that dh and I had to go and see his poo he did in the toilet OMG!!!!

And sure enough, there it was. (yes, yes yes we did the poo dance!!!)

Mrs Cellophane -I think you were right, he did have me wrapped around his little finger. Whilst he didn't have to think of going to the toilet -he didn't! It was lovely to see how proud of himself he was and it did show what my dh and I had been thinking that he woke only because he needed the toilet but just did it in his nappy...

I do know this is only one night and there are many more o go before he's officially 'dry' at night but this was a really good start.

YAHOO! Congrats.. and long may it continue. Hopefully he'll be so pleased with your reaction (LOL at the "poo dance" - wish I could see it!) that he won't want to regress. Still keeping those fingers crossed for you.

Hi, I'm back again for more!

My ds has had 2 dry nights and 2 wet nights when I mentioned this to my mil she says I should be getting ds up when we go to bed -10ish- to go to the toilet.

Is this good advice?
Do any of you do this?

When he has a wet night he does wee around 5am ish...

Thanks for helping

We did for a while (see earlier post) and I've heard of loads of people doing it. It shouldn't disturb them as much as you'd think it would - it's worth a try!

Just realised my earlier post didn't post! Don't know how that happened - sorry for the confusion!

anwyay, we used to hold ours over the potty when we went to bed and it worked quite well. Then when the wees stopped coming, we just gave up and it seemed to work out ok. As I did (!) mention, most of my friends tried it too.

Thanks for that, sometimes the mil comes up with quite random advice but it seems this time it's good

Muppetgirl - glad to hear it's going OK -ish. Does this mean the pooing in nappy is now over? It sounds like it.

Yes, I think your MIL has given good advice this time. What about limiting bed-time drinks? Or is this a bit mean? You could always consider it if the lifting doesn't work.

Anyhow, if the worst comes to the worst and you decide he's not ready to stay dry at night, perhaps he's overcome the pooing issue and won't go back? I'll keep this on "watch" - let me know how you get on!