Biting and other 'naughty' behaviour from 2.4yr old DS1

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He has recently started biting his 10mth old brother . With bad behaviour we have been sitting DS1 on the stairs for 2 minutes, but he bum shuffles up and down the next stair so I don't think he quite sees it as a punishment although when we tell him why he's there he automatically say sorry to his brother. This morning he bit his brother again but this time I put DS1 in his room - not sure if it had the right affect as he ended up screaming and calling for his 'raggy' which I did not give him. After a few minutes I went up and explained that he does not bite or hit his brother and he was nodding and understanding. We came down and he said sorry to DS2, since then, he's been good for an hour but poor DS2 has 3 bite marks on his back.
How do I go about solving this problem before I pull his teeth out

oh god, I don't know. I have the same problem with ds

The two girls have always gone through a bit of a stage of biting, but not like ds... he bites in order to hurt - I have watched him.

He goes out of his way to deliberately push, knock DS2, not all the time but still so hurt is intentional.
Ooooor is he just attention seeking?
Still, need to rectify this though either way.

my ds is the youngest, so I was thinking that it is the only way he can "hit back"

Will be keeping an eye on this thread, though.... hope you get some real answers.

anyone else able to help?

Please!!!!!
I though DS1 was kissing DS2 just now til I saw teeth marks in DS2's head!!
He's back in his room again

I have come to the conclusion its a boy/boy thing as our DS1 2.5yo is constantly sitting on, pushing, poking, hitting DS2 (13m). We put him in the 'naughty poorch' (stairs did no good) then he comes out all contrite, says sorry then promptly starts again!
No bite marks (yet!!) though.
Occasionally after a quashing episode I have sat on DS1 to demonstrate what it feels like!! (Dont' all report me, I dont' put all my weight on him!!).
My mum had 4 girls and said it was 20 years of squabbling, my auntie had two boys and said she was just a referee which is just how I feel.
I think girl/boy there is mothering, boy/girl there is protectiveness, girl/girl is squabbling, unfortunately we have rough and tumble!

Oh and we have zero tolerance when he is violent to his brother, he knows there are no warnings, we just haul him off to the poorch repeating my daily mantra - 'you do NOT hit xx, you do NOT sit on xx, you do NOT push xx' etc etc and after 3 months its just done no good at all.
Good luck with it you are not alone!

To leave marks since wednesday and the recent ones today, DS1 must be using some force mustn't he? I don't want to start biting DS1 though
I like the idea of the poch, but he'd get back i n to easily, yet don't want to keep using his room as he'll think bedtime is punishment won't he??

We dont' use the bedroom as he thinks being put up there is playtime!
I am sure its just a 'top dog' thing, males asserting their authority over each other. When DS2 was born the nursery said DS2 started hitting other smaller children, I was soooo mortified but they said it was normal and they expect it when a new baby comes.
The poorch thing took a while but we just kept starting the two minutes again everytime he sneaked out and he soon learned. The step doesn't work for us as downstairs is open, ds2 would crawl to the bottom of the stairs and they'd both be there giggling.
No, dont' bite him , when I sit on him it is in fun just to make a point!

He screamed up in his room again He's defo not thinking its playtime up there.
He is down again now calm again, he said sorry and muttered no biting hurt ouches after I told him why we shouldn't bite.

I think you're doing ok with the bedroom thing, stick to it. When he comes out, have a sit between them in front of the telly so they both get a cuddle and calm down a bit.

The first one usually does this when the Lo gets to the age when they become more active, and demand more parental attention.

It is really tough being the first, when you have had all your parents' attention all the time, then you are usurped by the new brother.

At about this stage it has finally sunk in that the baby is not going to go back, he is always going to be there, and the hurt and jealousy is painful for the 2 yearold.

I had 2 boys with 2 years between them and I would say that what you describe is normal and understandable.

Yes - time out for 2 minutes is fair enough, but that has to be balanced with LOTS of love and reassurance and one to one time, and positive reinforcement of good behaviour. Try to see things from your 2year old's POV.

Mine are 16 and 18 now and are really good friends - but it has been a bit of a journey.

When he next does it, have the buggy ready and strap him in. Say as you're doing it that he is in there because HE has done whatever and he can come out in 3 minutes. While he is in there, totally ignore him, do not make eye contact. Keep other siblings away too.

When you get him out, explain again that it was HIS fault he was in there and that it will happen again if he does anything violent.

The worst punishment in my opinion is to withdraw your attention. If you send children to their rooms they play or trash them. If you put them on a stair or chair they wriggle off, then get more attention when you put them back.

He probabley will carry on this behaviour because this is a phase they go through but at least while he's in the buggy he can't hurt anyone and he can gradually learn there are consequences to his actions.

buggy is a good idea, we have one which is the garden buggy for when I don't want (usually) DS2 crawling outside. I could use that in the conservatory.

But surely they will then refuse to go in a buggy as they will see it as a punishment - or are they old enough now to know the difference?

Sorry - a bit tired - I meant they will refuse next time they just need to go in it to get somewhere rather than as a punshment