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Our sons (3+5yo) fight and cry too much and we scream too much - HELP!!

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karlea · 30/10/2018 13:42

Both me and OH are at our wits end, as we scream so much at them, but just can't see any kind of improvement, be it a gentle approach or if they push it till we lose it!! We have 3 boys, but the problem lays with our 3yo and 5yo who will use every opportunity to start a fight, hurt or hit each other. The older one usually pokes at something, until the 3yo is in tears (it literally takes nothing to make him cry) and gets vicious and aggressive, eg kicking, biting the 5yo or pulling his hair. Both tend to screech for "Mummy", but tbh I've gone so numb over the last 1-1.5 years of this that I honestly just don't care anymore who has done what to who. It makes me a c parent and I want how things are or how I am with them, but we're stuck in this rut and it's just me losing it and shouting at them and them taking nothing from it and keep doing what they do. My OH has been diagnosed with depression and we openly discuss how much harder this parenting s is than expected. We both feel empty and numb towards the children a lot of the time and especially the constant crying and whinging of the 3yo seems like torture, as it happens without fail day in and day out. This morning, eg he screamed and screeched all the way home, occasionally asking for a cuddle, which I just can't master to give, as I'm already boiling inside. But then the weird thing is that he was fine and holding a friend of mine's hand just before the epic meltdown started. The 5yo is at school now, but cries at drop-off every morning which I completely don't get - surely, school and a break from your exhausted and shouting mother must be welcome, right? But he insists that he is missing me - again, I feel mostly numb about this and can't even get myself to say that I miss him too (I don't, I'm glad when it's a child less at home as this usually equals less stress). Am I just done with being a SAHM? Or have I just turned into a really s**y mum? Because I used to read a lot into gentle parenting and all that, did all the long-term bf and carried them in a sling, etc and I am pretty sure, I wasn't always just shouting and actually a nice mum to be round with. But I just don't know what to do with them anymore. They have no real interests, other than fighting and things I suggest doing are usually not followed through and end in tears and guess what - a fight/disagreement. The 3yo goes to nursery 3 mornings a week and seems fine there, as does the 5yo at school. No reports of being difficult children and the teachers say about the 5yo that he stops crying and seems happy once in his classroom. I really am at a loss and do the next day by hoping and believing that things will turn around at some point. I really hope they do, because this isn't a nice life at all. Not for me, my OH or my children.

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PrincessJuanita · 30/10/2018 18:50

Oh dear, that sounds tough and you sound like you've got yourself in a negative cycle. The boys are crying out for your attention but you are so stressed and cross that you don't want to give it, or give it begrudgingly (which they will sense) so then they fight, misbehave and yell for you because any attention is better than none.
I'm curious about whether your third son is older or younger and how he fits in? Is he a baby who naturally pulls focus away from the others or an older boy who does his own thing?
Three boys sounds very tough at this age so don't beat yourself up too much.
Could you sit down at some point and work out a plan so that you each get a little bit of regular "me" time, plus each boy gets really positive, fun 1-1 time with each of you? It won't be easy to fit everything in but if you can even make a start then you may well reap the rewards.

macmacaroon · 03/11/2018 18:57

I totally empathise. I have two boys: 4yo and 2yo. DH and I both find parenting really hard and read books, try out different strategies. I even went on an "about boys" course a year ago which helped. I find we try out the suggestions but then somehow things return to normal. I lost it with 4yo today and shouted even though I know all the advice is "don't shout". What can I do when he's throwing plates etc and cutterly around the kitchen?! Be calm I guess but I couldn't do it today. I am a working mum and blame his behaviour on that but I do try really hard but feel I get it wrong/can't deal with it. I feel if I was around more he would be more balanced. Who knows though. I'm with you when you say you feel numb as I actually think sometimes that I love my 4yo but don't like him at times. I don't think you're a rubbish mum, I think you're doing a really tough job and doing the best you can. Can you have a few days away on your own to de-stress and work our a different approach. ? I have no answers as am struggling myself. I saw on here someone suggested 3 day nanny on YouTube. I'm watching that tonight to try and get some tips! What the previous poster suggested about giving each child your undivided attention is a good plan. I've read that before and I try it from time to time (book: coping with two). Someone said use humour and there is a book on that but I don't know the name of it. I also have tried to lower my expectations a bit about parenting ie I thought it would be mostly fun but it's mostly hard work / gruelling with a bit of fun of I'm lucky

babbscrabbs · 09/11/2018 10:28

I sympathise, parenting two has been 5 times harder than 1 for us!

I think you need to press reset, make sure you are fulfilled personally in some way (not just using the time your children are in care to do housework etc), you sound overwhelmed.

Try contacting the council about parenting courses, we went on one and found it so useful. Also read some calm parenting books! The calmer and more in control you seem the calmer your kids will be, eventually.

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